Pioneer Square apartments... safe? (Seattle: lofts, safe area, quality of life)

[ijoe13]

Is Pioneer Square a safe area to live in? I have read that it can be questionable after dark. Is it any worse than living in Belltown or Downtown and walking around after dark?

Mods: not sure if I can post this link, but I wanted to get an opinion of the area these apartments are located in.

Seattle Historic Lofts, Terry Denny, The Corona, Pioneer Square

Thanks for any feedback.

Joe

[jessicazi]

In my opinion, I would think the Pioneer Square area would be worse than the downtown and Belltown areas. Anytime I went to Pioneer Square at night, even around 6pm, there were drug dealers EVERYWHERE. It was awful. My gym was located in Belltown and I never felt unsafe and rarely saw drug dealers. I worked downtown about 2 blocks from Pike Place Market and was there at night and again, never felt that unsafe.

[Ira500]

Pioneer Square has it's share of homeless folk. Pioneer Square has noisy clubs. I wouldn't describe it as necessarily dangerous at all times, but clearly a place I'd feel like I'd have to be on my guard a lot. The Corona I'd say is a worse location than the Terry-Denny, just a little scuzzier, though the Terry-Denny is a cool old building. Pioneer Square is a smaller neighborhood than Belltown, so I'd say that some parts of Belltown are much better than those Pioneer Square locations from the perspective of feeling safe.
Plus, I think Pioneer Square has declined a little in recent years, and with the move of Elliott Bay Books to Capitol Hill, it doesn't look it's about to transform any time soon for the better.

[specificnorthwest]

Just a visitor, but my impression of that are wasn't great. And yet it has so much potential with the great architecture, open spaces and location.

What's the deal with this area and why hasn't there been more of a crackdown on the safety/crime/quality of life issues? any other city and a neighborhood like this would be gold.

[ijoe13]

Originally Posted by specificnorthwest

Just a visitor, but my impression of that are wasn't great. And yet it has so much potential with the great architecture, open spaces and location.

What's the deal with this area and why hasn't there been more of a crackdown on the safety/crime/quality of life issues? any other city and a neighborhood like this would be gold.

I agree with you. When I visited Seattle, it was always one of my favorite neighborhoods to travel through. Although my travels were during the day in broad daylight, so I suppose I don't have the "night-time experience to compare it to. When I walked through the "Tenderloin" in San Francisco, there seemed to be hundreds of homeless people and drug dealers to which the number of homeless on the streets in Seattle can't even compare.

[JesseJB]

Originally Posted by specificnorthwest

Just a visitor, but my impression of that are wasn't great. And yet it has so much potential with the great architecture, open spaces and location.

What's the deal with this area and why hasn't there been more of a crackdown on the safety/crime/quality of life issues? any other city and a neighborhood like this would be gold.

Its one of the great questions of our time. But Seattle leadership has never fared well in the "obvious" department.

[cksean]

Pioneer square is fine...people there are harmless...unless you're scare of powerless drunk homeless...

[ijoe13]

Originally Posted by cksean

Pioneer square is fine...people there are harmless...unless you're scare of powerless drunk homeless...

Ha! Yea, drunks have "drunk strength!" So if one latches on to you, you're finished.

[Blindtom]

Those are beautiful apartments.
I have been walking in Pioneer square several times. It was always during the day, and always with other people, but I never felt threatened. However, I have been advised to stay away at night, especially if alone.

[ijoe13]

Originally Posted by Blindtom

Those are beautiful apartments.
I have been walking in Pioneer square several times. It was always during the day, and always with other people, but I never felt threatened. However, I have been advised to stay away at night, especially if alone.

I wish I could find similar style apartments in some other part of the city. I just can't imagine living there and having to watch over my shoulder when walking around after dark.