where to buy fire proof security safe? (farm, house, tractor)
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Anyone have any suggestions for how/where to buy a safe? I want a safe that is fire proof AND burglar proof. I went online, but got completely overwhelmed.
I'm taken by the bed bunker and their products, if I ever needed one I'd go there. I asked the fellow and few questions and he was really cool. Shipping is no problem.
There is no such thing as fire proof, but you can delay ruined items measured in hours @ certain degrees. The question is how big do you need it, and how much are you willing to spend?
Maybe another question is, if the building burns what fuels are there to create heat?
Usually Gun Safes are pretty good, but not as good as a bank vault, but any of these can fail in a long fire that is hot enough.
I acquired a Mosler fire safe. Weighs 980 pounds empty. It was damaged on a construction job when it was dropped on it's face and broke off its lever.
I would have to look up the specs on fire safe. I remember it has was supposed to protect contents against a 1500 degree fire for 4 hours and the cool down.
Down South I learned the value of metal pipe and cement.
Dig a hole.
Sink a large diameter pipe about 1 - 2 feet down. Pack the dirt around the outside of the pipe tightly so it doesn't move, with an inch or so exposed above the dirt.
Insert a smaller diameter pipe (same length) into the larger diameter pipe, with the same 1-inch lip above. Verrry carefully pour cement in between the two pipes. Pack it down tightly. Allow to dry.
Saw off the upper pipe lips even with the ground. use the outer pipe lip as a mold to pour a cement cap. Cut the smaller pipe lip in half while the cement cap is still wet, bend it and and shove it into the wet cement cap to dry. This gives you a metal handle for the cap.
You can keep dirt packed around this, or as in some places, you can pour a cement floor of a building or garage around it, taking care not to cover your safe opening (usually with a close-built wood frame). It is non-removable and no one knows it is there.
I used to work in a fireworks store that had one of these in the cement floor; we called it the money drop and it was used daily to put in each shift's money and end-shift cashout tape. The owner would come in the next morning and take everything out, count it, and deposit it. One night there was an electrical fire that caused the whole place to go up. Afterward, when everything cooled, he went over to where the money drop used to be, knocked away all of the debris, opened the cement cap - and all of the money and even the receipts were there. Heat rises, dirt cools and disseminates.
Traditional guns safes only keep the honest burglars out. The knowledgable ones will be able to get into the safe in short order.
Most safe companies will rate the fire resistance on their websites in terms of temperature and time. Use these to compare different brands.
Check with some of the larger gun shops in your area as well as your larger locksmith shops. Farm & Home stores, sporting goods stores, Sam's Club and other places routinely carry safes. Not all are created equal so do you homework ahead of time as to the quality of construction before making your final purchase.
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