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I guess, then, I am a terrorist (NOT!)
I have a supply of food that will support 4 people for over a year, and it all has a shelf life up to 15 years. A year would give me enough time to set up a few acres of crop production.
Currently, designing a wood-fired steam generation system, to provide electricity (I am on a lot of land with wooded forests). Also PV cells, etc.
It would be great if you would start a thread about that. I have more timberland than I could ever use in my lifetime, probably in dead fall alone, and this sounds like a smart alternative.
Because people who can fend for themselves are not easily manipulated or controlled.
Homeland security tells people to stock "at least 3 days of food", but to go as far as 7 days sends up a red flag? Okie dokie.
Also from your vid: They want to declare the US a battlefield. Haven't they done that already? For what other reason is Homeland Security equipping civilian police departments with military firepower to "fight terrorism."
Apparently North Dakota is a hotbed of terrorists.
Local Cops Ready for War With Homeland Security-Funded Military Weapons
But that hasn’t stopped authorities in Fargo and its surrounding county from going on an $8 million buying spree to arm police officers with the sort of gear once reserved only for soldiers fighting foreign wars.
The buying spree has transformed local police departments into small, army-like forces, and put intimidating equipment into the hands of civilian officers. And that is raising questions about whether the strategy has gone too far, creating a culture and capability that jeopardizes public safety and civil rights while creating an expensive false sense of security.
“The argument for up-armoring is always based on the least likely of terrorist scenarios,” says Mark Randol, a former terrorism expert at the Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan research arm of Congress. “Anyone can get a gun and shoot up stuff. No amount of SWAT equipment can stop that.”
And this is no surprise:
The U.S. Homeland Security Department says it doesn’t closely track what’s been bought with its tax dollars or how the equipment is used.
It would be great if you would start a thread about that. I have more timberland than I could ever use in my lifetime, probably in dead fall alone, and this sounds like a smart alternative.
Once I do a fair amount of more research, I can start a thread.
These things can be a little bit dangerous. I lean on the conservative side, and want all the safety valves/equipment in place.
For old equipment, they are easy to find (the raw components).
I saw a few old steam locomotives for sale, but that is way overkill, as I only want to power a house (let's say 25kW), not half a city block.
Obviously diesel or kerosene is a much easier way to generate electricity, but if the wood is free, and you have the time and energy.....
A 50-75HP Monotube boiler is about 36" in diameter, will give you about 30kW-50kW net, weighs about 350lbs, but it is running under a lot of pressure. Then you need a water separator, a water trap, hydrostatic lubricator, etc.
You can get a motor/generator surplus easily...
When I was a kid we used to buy stuff from Young Engineering in Salem, MA, (they are still there), but that was 35 years ago.
I can weld. but leave the critical stuff up to a professional welder.
It is a fair amount of work (but the sound of them is awesome when they run at full output ;-)
I think it is only really practical if you cannot get access to diesel, gas or kerosene (or you like to play with really old technology, or have a lot of wood and time available.)
Because people who can fend for themselves are not easily manipulated or controlled.
Homeland security tells people to stock "at least 3 days of food", but to go as far as 7 days sends up a red flag? Okie dokie.
Also from your vid: They want to declare the US a battlefield. Haven't they done that already? For what other reason is Homeland Security equipping civilian police departments with military firepower to "fight terrorism."
Apparently North Dakota is a hotbed of terrorists.
Local Cops Ready for War With Homeland Security-Funded Military Weapons
But that hasn’t stopped authorities in Fargo and its surrounding county from going on an $8 million buying spree to arm police officers with the sort of gear once reserved only for soldiers fighting foreign wars.
The buying spree has transformed local police departments into small, army-like forces, and put intimidating equipment into the hands of civilian officers. And that is raising questions about whether the strategy has gone too far, creating a culture and capability that jeopardizes public safety and civil rights while creating an expensive false sense of security.
“The argument for up-armoring is always based on the least likely of terrorist scenarios,” says Mark Randol, a former terrorism expert at the Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan research arm of Congress. “Anyone can get a gun and shoot up stuff. No amount of SWAT equipment can stop that.”
And this is no surprise:
The U.S. Homeland Security Department says it doesn’t closely track what’s been bought with its tax dollars or how the equipment is used.
homeland security says 3 days worth of food and water, but fema says 2-3 weeks worth of the same. wish they would tall each other who is or wrong. heck, I wish both would just go away, sort of like how the dodo bird did.
Because people who can fend for themselves are not easily manipulated or controlled.
Homeland security tells people to stock "at least 3 days of food", but to go as far as 7 days sends up a red flag? Okie dokie.
Also from your vid: They want to declare the US a battlefield. Haven't they done that already? For what other reason is Homeland Security equipping civilian police departments with military firepower to "fight terrorism."
Apparently North Dakota is a hotbed of terrorists.
Local Cops Ready for War With Homeland Security-Funded Military Weapons
But that hasn’t stopped authorities in Fargo and its surrounding county from going on an $8 million buying spree to arm police officers with the sort of gear once reserved only for soldiers fighting foreign wars.
The buying spree has transformed local police departments into small, army-like forces, and put intimidating equipment into the hands of civilian officers. And that is raising questions about whether the strategy has gone too far, creating a culture and capability that jeopardizes public safety and civil rights while creating an expensive false sense of security.
“The argument for up-armoring is always based on the least likely of terrorist scenarios,” says Mark Randol, a former terrorism expert at the Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan research arm of Congress. “Anyone can get a gun and shoot up stuff. No amount of SWAT equipment can stop that.”
And this is no surprise:
The U.S. Homeland Security Department says it doesn’t closely track what’s been bought with its tax dollars or how the equipment is used.
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Originally Posted by CDusr
With the NDAA now don't be surprised to see people harassed for this.
Luckily you aren't likely to include raw milk products in such a supply so at least they can't bust you for that.
And ironically who probably stashes more food away than anybody else? Yes you guessed it. The government.
Quote:
Homeland Security monitors journalists
Freedom of speech might allow journalists to get away with a lot in America, but the Department of Homeland Security is on the ready to make sure that the government is keeping dibs on who is saying what.
Under the National Operations Center (NOC)’s Media Monitoring Initiative that came out of DHS headquarters in November, Washington has the written permission to retain data on users of social media and online networking platforms.
Specifically, the DHS announced the NCO and its Office of Operations Coordination and Planning (OPS) can collect personal information from news anchors, journalists, reporters or anyone who may use “traditional and/or social media in real time to keep their audience situationally aware and informed.”
Requirement: OPS/NOC is permitted to collect PII on the following categories of individuals when it lends credibility to the report or facilitates coordination with federal, state, local, tribal, territorial, foreign, or international government partners: 1) U.S. and foreign individuals in extremis situations involving potential life or death circumstances; 2) senior U.S. and foreign government officials who make public statements or provide public updates; 3) U.S. and foreign government spokespersons who make public statements or provide public updates; 4) U.S. and foreign private sector officials and spokespersons who make public statements or provide public updates; 5) names of anchors, newscasters, or on-scene reporters who are known or identified as reporters in their post or article or who use traditional and/or social media in real time to keep their audience situationally aware and informed; 6) current and former public officials who are victims of incidents or activities related to Homeland Security; and 7) terrorists, drug cartel leaders, or other persons known to have been involved in major crimes of Homeland Security interest.
That's from "...NOC Media Monitoring Initiative" dated November 15, 2011, which you can find here at the DHS web-site:
Remember is the government, not you, who defines who and what a "terrorist" is, and that definition constantly changes.
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