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There are a lot of variables. Math is great - until you consider the variables.
60 acres of sandy open rolling plains is far different from 60 acres of wooded, and far different from 60 acres of flat cornfields. An armed and prepared, rotating militia of six can adequately defend woodlands - IF they cache items, IF they know the terrain not just in broad daylight but in snow cover or pitch black night, IF they know possible entry points that can be secured by automatic detection/expulsion items before live defenders can arrive,, if they utilize the trees as not only cover but vantage (few raiding parties look up)... that's just one example.
Only you know your terrain, your hazards, your liabilities, and your potentials. Those four adults who live close should know them as intimately as a 7-year-old knows his playground. Prepping isn't just having things, it's knowing what can be placed where, what your potentials are. Ever walked into a field where a bull was grazing? The bull's head comes up, and he watches, assessing the threat. He knows where and when to charge the interloper - and everything he thinks he knows can be shot to heck with one well-placed bullet from a calm, cool, and collected observer. You have to know your escape and attack routes as well as your defense routes, plan where and when to run or make a stand, or position for flank protection, when to be a bull and when to be a coyote. All of these things should be as much a part of practice as school children practice their fire drills...
Barbed wire on a fence or tangled in a rugged ground of the perimeter, motion lights thoughfully located that alert inside ur house when activated, trip wire placed 4 ft high that activates an invisible light mounted on the nearby tree that u can spot from ur house with goggles, or a trip wire that alarms when its tripped.
There's a trap I use to make to stop intruders from entering my space....
Dig a big hole as wide or deep as desired, u can put anything inside or nothing at all, lay flemsy sticks across it, cover it with leaves. But rather not have it where there are animals.
A dog is good. Maybe park the vehicles in a place the public can't easily see them so they'll never know when you're home or not.
Mirrors set up so that u can keep an eye on 2 sides of your property when washing dishes, if u have a window infront of ur sink...
Practise aiming ur weapon with a scope from windows and special areas.
Have a clear sign Private Property or No Trespassing or Beware of Dog or Sherman Sheild.
Or on the idea that most of your adversaries will come from desperate city folk you could take all your armaments , families and survival necessities and move to a place where there are basically no people, You could probably move to northern Canada or somewhere way up there and never see another human for the rest of your lives.
Or follow the lifestyle of Richard Proenneke = Richard Proenneke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We live out in the country and have some acres. How would you suggest we defend ourselves and our property in case of the SHTF scenario?
Some people here say you must have a large group to defend anything but what if that is not possible? There are four grownups in my family that live close.
what the hell does SHTF Mean?
Does ANYONE write out complete words and sentences anymore?
Does ANYONE write out complete words and sentences anymore?
SHTF = S__t hits the fan.
Seems these days with every one rushing about writing out complete sentences are a thing of the past as everything has to be quick/fast or people are getting just too lazy to write out complete sentences, i suspect the latter..
LOL
If SHTF inflames you, then TEOTWAWKI really ought to get your juices flowing.
With a lot of people who have been prepping or self-sufficient for awhile, SHTF and The End Of The World As We Know It are pretty common shorthand for referrring to every and anything from economic collapse or a pandemic, to EMPs (electromagnetic pulses) or the Mayan interpretation of December 2012. Most folks have their own interpretation and belief of what will happen and how they should prepare for it; SHTF and TEOTWAWKI are non-specific references - usually so we don't have to listen to/read tirades about "NO you are wrong, it's gonna happen THIS way!" instead of staying on-topic.
Defense is an ongoing topic on here. Some folks go on and on about tanks and APCs, others about sniping and staying on the move, still others about structural defense and being part of a community. Everyone's circumstances are different; from living in a downtown apartment to living in the Alaskan outback, and defenses need to be examined for particular locations as well as particular threats and potential outcomes of each SHTF situation. For example, you wouldn't think that a tiny rural community of 150 people would have too many worries about a pandemic involvement - but if you have 30 people from that community who go to Washington, DC, Mexico, or France and Spain every year on trips, you have your potential introduction of a highly communicable and deadly disease. Right in the middle of the most recent pandemic scare, a teacher took 15 kids to Mexico for a week, because they would lose their deposit and "nothing will happen anyway". Of course, nothing did - that time. But like the people who live in hurricane zones who don't leave or flee to shelter because 'it never happens here' - all it takes is one incorrect guess and you have a catastrophe.
We live out in the country and have some acres. How would you suggest we defend ourselves and our property in case of the SHTF scenario?
Some people here say you must have a large group to defend anything but what if that is not possible? There are four grownups in my family that live close.
I think that the outpost fortifications of the US Military in places like Iraq and Afganistan should lend some help. Not to that extreme perhaps, but along the same lines. Using the same ideas.
You want: (i) discouragement, (ii) silent early warning and (iii) a series of obstacles and (iv) prevention from unwanted vehicles (bad things arrive in big packages).
So start with some big ugly perimeter and access path signs with images of intruders being beheaded of tortured, snakes on the ground, etc.
Then a battery operated concealed motion detectors along perimeter lines.
Then some multilpe fence and razor wire obstacles to get over.
Vehicle access limited to one way out unless controlled by you the way the rental car companies hold on to their cars in the airport lots.
Then some big lights on the outside of the house to identify the bad guys at the obstacles.
Then you need a .223 semi automatic with infrared scope.
Then you need a close range instrument like an automatic pistol grip shotgun.
A guard dog would be a nice addition. Keep him in a limited enclosure where he will bark his head off but not get out and get himself killed. A dog who is limited from running up to an intruder will be far more effective than a big boy on the porch. He will do his job by barking his head off which he will do if he can't get to the intruder.
I would also buy a used police car with colors like your local sheriff and park it in the driveway.
SHTF = S__t hits the fan.
Seems these days with every one rushing about writing out complete sentences are a thing of the past as everything has to be quick/fast or people are getting just too lazy to write out complete sentences, i suspect the latter..
Oh, thank you. I'm old and grew up with real complete words so I don't understand a lot of the letters only words.
LOL
If SHTF inflames you, then TEOTWAWKI really ought to get your juices flowing.
With a lot of people who have been prepping or self-sufficient for awhile, SHTF and The End Of The World As We Know It are pretty common shorthand for referrring to every and anything from economic collapse or a pandemic, to EMPs (electromagnetic pulses) or the Mayan interpretation of December 2012. Most folks have their own interpretation and belief of what will happen and how they should prepare for it; SHTF and TEOTWAWKI are non-specific references - usually so we don't have to listen to/read tirades about "NO you are wrong, it's gonna happen THIS way!" instead of staying on-topic.
Defense is an ongoing topic on here. Some folks go on and on about tanks and APCs, others about sniping and staying on the move, still others about structural defense and being part of a community. Everyone's circumstances are different; from living in a downtown apartment to living in the Alaskan outback, and defenses need to be examined for particular locations as well as particular threats and potential outcomes of each SHTF situation. For example, you wouldn't think that a tiny rural community of 150 people would have too many worries about a pandemic involvement - but if you have 30 people from that community who go to Washington, DC, Mexico, or France and Spain every year on trips, you have your potential introduction of a highly communicable and deadly disease. Right in the middle of the most recent pandemic scare, a teacher took 15 kids to Mexico for a week, because they would lose their deposit and "nothing will happen anyway". Of course, nothing did - that time. But like the people who live in hurricane zones who don't leave or flee to shelter because 'it never happens here' - all it takes is one incorrect guess and you have a catastrophe.
Thank you for taking the time to answer I do very much appreciate it.
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