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Old 10-24-2012, 12:30 AM
 
Location: SWUS
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I've watched tons of the survivalist and prepardness videos and it shows all these families arming themselves to the "T" the weapons virtually out numbered the people to use them. Im a former spec ops medic so I've been around all types of new and old small arms, my family and I have our own stratagey but wanted to see what the real worlds view was on this topic.

Thanks
I call BS on the bold, but anyway...

Firearms: Anything in a caliber that's readily available, in a firearm that is fairly common. Could be a bolt-action rifle, shotgun, revolver, semi-auto pistol, or semi-auto rifle. You'd better either be really good with your aim/weapon or have A LOT of ammunition.
Anything else: You could seriously pick anything up and use it in a self-defense setting... rock, branch, etc. All it has to do is assist in the transfer of energy from you to another person.

I figure that after a certain point, there probably wouldn't be such a great need for firearms, and most weapons useable in a self-defense manner will be very quiet- people may become reacquainted with bows/arrows, knives, shovels, whatever.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I call BS on the bold, but anyway...
Yeah, medics are as scarce as hen's teeth. In "spec ops," special forces, and other such specific branches of military or government, they don't have medics. If they can't sew their own leg back on, they simply lay down and die.

And yes, you are justified in calling my statement bull****. Because, of course, it is. Now if you could explain to me what is so rare about a medic in any given branch of the military, I could perhaps better understand your declaration.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:53 PM
 
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Yeah, medics are as scarce as hen's teeth. In "spec ops," special forces, and other such specific branches of military or government, they don't have medics. If they can't sew their own leg back on, they simply lay down and die.

And yes, you are justified in calling my statement bull****. Because, of course, it is. Now if you could explain to me what is so rare about a medic in any given branch of the military, I could perhaps better understand your declaration.

The Marine Corps...
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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The Marine Corps...
Well, yeah, all right... but other than that.
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Old 10-26-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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True, nearly everyone will be dead in a year or so after shtf, but every last person, over the age of 10 or so, will be carrying some sort of autoloading longarm, most probably a .22lr. That will beat any bow, xbow, or pellet gun all to hell. Since there's many billions of .22lr rds sold here each year, there will be plenty of it to last 20 years or more.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: northern Alabama
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Default Short term/long term weapons

Deekon - ammo doesn't last as long as you think. My father taught gun classes. He always figured on the students wasting an entire clip the first time they fired the gun! No matter what he said, they always emptied the clip! He also said that, under stress, you don't shoot, look, and if necessary shoot again. Instinct says to shoot until you are sure your enemy is dead. He went thru 4 years in Europe during WWII and had lots of experience.

He told me that, during WWII, he saw people in Europe who died because they could not adjust mentally to a drastically altered landscape. They just couldn't make the adjustments necessary to survive. Also, I was raised hunting, but one of my friends did not start hunting until she was grown. She said that the first kill was hard because of the mental adjustment required.

Short term weapons -guns, homemade bombs. Long term - swords, machetes, bows. I hunt with a hunting slingshot and a standard, recurve bow. Both are quiet and adequate for the job. I have taken deer, ducks, turkeys, wild pigs with my bow (no boars, tho). Squirrels, rabbits with the slingshot.
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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Squirrels, rabbits with the slingshot.

Interesting. Do you use just a homemade sort of slingshot (from wood branches and rubber) or the higher-tech "wrist rocket" type slingshots with the wrist stabilizer? Both types can be pretty mean. My father used to make and use slingshots all the time. He would often shoot .36 cal lead balls (from his Colt 1861 Navy lead mold). The lethality on small animals and general damage that can be inflicted is quite sobering for people who view a slingshot as a "kid's toy."
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: northern Alabama
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Default ChrisC

High tech, all metal with a well padded wrist brace. For ammo, I have used everything from stones to ball bearings. The only problem I have had with this type of slingshot, is that I have had to replace the rubber part of the slingshot. Surgical tubing works great and is not that expensive.

I have often wondered if this type of slingshot could kill someone. This is similar to what I have. Mine is rather old.



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Old 11-01-2012, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Interior AK
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I don't know if you could kill a person with a slingshot, but I do know from personal experience that it can break bones. A lucky shot could be fatal, or at least knock them unconscious. Using a crossbow-style bolt instead of a rock or ball bearing might increase the damage a bit.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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Hey Gunkid:
"Try harder"...
THXS i was wondering.....
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