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I had these same questions after Wilma. I prepared even though they said it was going to be a 1. (Hardly.) I filled up my zip loc bags and water bottles 3/4 of the way and put them in the freezer, I had my canned goods, I had a propane stove, matches to light it, I had my Gilligan radio, batteries, flash light, filled up my gas tank, etc.
I was prepared for probably a good two weeks before I would need anyone to help me.
Wilma came in the early, early hours and in to the morning. I am not even kidding, withing HOURS, people were calling in to the radio station, (that I was listening to), and bitching up a storm that the government was not there to help them.
They needed water and ice, NOW!!!!!!
One woman called talking about how she couldn't feed her baby because the formula required water and her water was deemed unsafe to drink. DUH! WTF do you think people buy water for before a hurricane?!
The gas lines, the same. People in line for hours trying to get gas, gas was rationed, heated arguments, fist fights...why? Because you're too stupid to prepare?
The line for ice and water, (there was one near where I lived so I walked over to see what it was like), angry people, cars running and they are complaining that they are "running out of gas while waiting" for ice and water. TURN OFF THE ENGINE THEN!
Grocery stores...same thing. LONG lines. People surprised when they can't go in with their plastic because the store was running on a generator and did not have the ability to swipe that plastic. Cash only. Oh the hissy fits! Even though we were all told that this could happen and get some cash before the storm!
I decided to go in just to see what it would look like, (this was my third storm and I never bothered before). In line, most people were ok but some were very impatient and crying about things. In the store itself? What was the point of going to the store? There wasn't anything TO buy! It was pointless! The shelves were wiped clean of anything worthwhile.
The point is, with hurricanes, you get warning. It doesn't matter if it's a tropical storm or a Cat 1 or 2. Not getting water and ice, not getting food, not filling up your car and having gas for your generator, not having cash on hand....sorry, you're an idiot and I feel zero sympathy for you.
(I say only up to Cat 2 because frankly, at Cat 3 and beyond, I believe you should just get the hell out of dodge.)
Good point about the cash. do make sure to have small bills, ones, fives, tens---don't expect to be able to get change!
Good point about the cash. do make sure to have small bills, ones, fives, tens---don't expect to be able to get change!
yeah it is and it should be a common known that if you can't buy gas or shop really in stores because there is no power, that plastic cards won't work either.....
At that point you are all done unless you run across a some guy who wears his heart on his sleeve and doesn't want anything in return. You don't find a lot of that type of people anymore.
Back in the last big ice storm there in fact was no power and no gas was forth coming because no pumps worked.
Another problem was people who had gennies didn't take care of them and so the gennies were sometimes useless until parts could be bought, which no one could buy because parts fiches didn't work. The lack of everything because of no power was sometimes just a riot.
Like 3 wolves not for me, but for others i ventured into a store. Shop N Save in Ossipee at the junction of Rts 16 and 28. there was nothing to buy and the place stuck of dead and rot. Even the black sunflower bird seed was gone.... i don';t know if it was bought for birds or human consumption, but it was gone. I wanted it for my old man friend who have birds of his own inside his place.
Like 3 wolves said a store worker lead me around with a flashlight, and i had my flashlight too, but it was day light and other people wanting in came with nothing, probably to buy a flashlight.
Just in case anyone really is reading.......
My day to day dress naturally carries little things. My hats contain thread usually linen in the hat band, brass fish hooks, sterling silver needles i make that won;t ever rust, some steel needles to. A brooch made of sterling i could trade as money, more needles to hold feathers, and a small carbon steel knife i made.
I never leave home with out a knife in my pocket and another fixed blade which is small on a cord around my neck. I usually have no less than 2 flashlights on very small clip on with a led that runs off 3 watch batteries and a bright enough to blind you type on my belt.
Of course i carry a gun.... but like anything else it is a tool, and no one can tell and i don't tell either..... it makes me more polite than I must be on line....
I tend to dress for the weather, and so dos my wife.... She knows better that to doll up and then be caught looking like a raccoon because it rained. i think maybe she spends 10 dollars on make up in a year and still has to throw out most of it since it can spoil. I like her best with out any anyway.... She isn't to prissy to hand make greasey tools either, or help lug wood, push a wheel barrow or garden where bugs and snakes are.... The bad part comes when she insists she must get pics of each and every creature in the garden so she can draw them all later (she is very good)
The point is to be ready for most anything with no notice.. Oh in my wallet is a hair pin and a safety pin which both get used in getting out splinters.
I did quit smoking 7 months ago and finding fire in the form if a BIC can sometimes be a problem. It shows I am getting sloppy....
I can afford to be a little sloppy since i can start fire with 2 sticks but it will take a lot longer to make up the tools from scratch.
Mac, what is with you and all the dress-up? I thought you did this to entertain the kids, but it's beginning to sound like you do it all the time. Are you part Native Indian? You're in Alaska, so I assume you don't routinely dress like these pics.
Umm I have no idea what to say, because i have no idea what you are saying... I am not even being flip.. i just can't understand what you wrote....
This part is very confusing "As somebody who cleaned my clock said to me as I hobbled off"
Sorry. Its often times blind luck whether one lives or dies, wins or loses, in a disaster and no amount of preparation is going to help you. The office workers who survived the collapse of the towers were those who got out of them at the first sign of trouble. The best advice is just don't be there.
What is anyone still doing on Staten Island or the Jersey Shore in the cold without power? I am guessing that there they have the hope of being given stuff to exist, but in Newark or on Central Park West, no.
I am not sure if really meant to quote me... i was asking what that poster would do in the event they were caught in any emergency and another human would need the same space their pets were taking.
i also stated which is true in my area of the white Mts in NH that summer people abandon pets each Fall. I have no idea where you are Maine I think, but this probably happens in your area too, and if not you are just not looking hard.
It seems you are living rural, and if so there should be Fall season abandoned pets in Maine. if you were walking about near any closed summer camps probably pets will venture out to you looking for something to eat.
I had just finished reading your rather long but interesting post on what city dwellers will do. I would say you are correct in that city dwellers won't go very far and that even when at times in my past i have over heard conversations, as we will come to NH to fish and hunt from city dwellers meaning in shtf they will come TAKE, that the reality is they don't.
I was also wondering what gruesome is to you....... I know what it is when i say it.... LOL
I did mean to quote you. Yes, you were asking someone a question based on what you saw in Katrina but the point is, it was not a good question because anyone who has a pet needs to make preparations for that pet before it's "too late" to leave. If you want to stay behind and "guard" the house or whatever it is you want to do, that's fine. If you find out that wasn't a great idea and need rescue, a boat comes by, you get in, that's fine. But don't you, (general you), DARE make your pets suffer for your decision. Put them up in a shelter BEFORE the storm gets there so that no matter what, they are going to be safe.
As for abandoned pets, you see that all over, not just in rural areas. I find people who do this to be highly disgusting and if I say more than that, I'll get the ban hammer for cursing up a blue streak. I despise...no, actually, I do really hate people who treat animals as nothing more than objects to be tossed aside when they are bored with them.
As for "gruesome"...again, probably not something I want to say in PRINT on a public forum. If shtf, there's some things that you just know you're going to have to do to keep yourself safe...right from the start.
Mac, what is with you and all the dress-up? I thought you did this to entertain the kids, but it's beginning to sound like you do it all the time. Are you part Native Indian? You're in Alaska, so I assume you don't routinely dress like these pics.
I am not in Alaska, I am in New Hampshire. I have no idea how you came to that idea. but i would indeed like to travel in Alaska sometime.
I an in part a historical re-enactor, blacksmith, silver worker, not quite a smith, cordwainer, tailor and you kinda name it old timey stuff sorta guy. it isn't dress up unless you can buy it. I made it all myself wood leather stone work the gun in primitive.....
Now dress up might apply to the AK-47 big stick thang... And Yes you are right i don't paint like this everyday LOL But i made the paint too......
The first pic is for a book promo a writer did and needed a paleoman for. I was paid.
The 2nd one was for my little sister who showed up at the time i was just getting home from a F&I Battle event. The one sitting is at Ft Ticonderoga and i am about dead from the heat after having so much fun keeling de Englaise
The next is me pissed off at some schumk on a motorcycle board who said he was coming to keel me and kick my dog..... I was showing him what I would look like.
I never set out to entertain anyone. I used to do a historical dog and pony show to earn a living because my back is about trash and for love or money being partly disabled means it ain't worth squat to fill out any job apps in the USA, and so I must make my own way to drain any and all swamps that stand in my way.
The only problem is the rules seem to change in the middle of the game.
When i bring something like this to a public school everyone loves it and with no adds what so ever the whole act gets passed around, until the day of Columbine...... Which I did but never again
My Pals
My wife and I and i made everything she has on and that is the dress i placed on the kind NH State police officer when he grinned in my face saying no weapons and fires can you still do your show.
That day as i said was the last.......
a bit of silver work I did til silver went nuts........
Assorted other crummy junk I either made or had a hell of a lot to do with...
remember all articles of clothing I made beading sewwing and silver too besides these stills.
These days my particular pigeon hole is as a Biker But at the drop of a pin I couid shave off my whiskers and put on paint.
I did mean to quote you. Yes, you were asking someone a question based on what you saw in Katrina but the point is, it was not a good question because anyone who has a pet needs to make preparations for that pet before it's "too late" to leave. If you want to stay behind and "guard" the house or whatever it is you want to do, that's fine. If you find out that wasn't a great idea and need rescue, a boat comes by, you get in, that's fine. But don't you, (general you), DARE make your pets suffer for your decision. Put them up in a shelter BEFORE the storm gets there so that no matter what, they are going to be safe.
As for abandoned pets, you see that all over, not just in rural areas. I find people who do this to be highly disgusting and if I say more than that, I'll get the ban hammer for cursing up a blue streak. I despise...no, actually, I do really hate people who treat animals as nothing more than objects to be tossed aside when they are bored with them.
As for "gruesome"...again, probably not something I want to say in PRINT on a public forum. If shtf, there's some things that you just know you're going to have to do to keep yourself safe...right from the start.
Thank you for the reply.... We got off to a really bad start you and I, and so i was wondering about that again.. I think more or less we are on the same page.. if you read me a little more on this thread I think it will not leave a whole lot to not know about me.
My typing is self taught which of course anyone can tell. Steel never much cared about grammar and or spelling. So i type as if i were simply talking, which can get yankeefied if i go nawthern like which i do at times. I suppose you seen it right off'''' ayha.
I just love that word Yankee too there is apx 1,001 ways to spell it.
It is French slanged up by Native peoples and when i say peoples i mean a lot of different language base peoples. who all had some other accents besides french!
Once the word Yankees gets boil for about 20 minutes in a salty brine, it comes out as yenques yungquish and all sorts of other spellings for one or maybe 2 words depending all meaning English or Yankees
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