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Old 11-25-2012, 12:30 PM
 
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God bless this guy......Would be neat asking them about details of living amoung nature (Did he become friends with lions,etc LIKE GRIZZY ADAMS did,etc)
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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This is interesting...... Thank you.....
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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I'll bet he lived an interesting, and very satisfying life, he probably had some great stories he could tell, and he was probably very happy and healthy.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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Yes im sure he was
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:24 AM
 
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I'll bet he lived an interesting, and very satisfying life, he probably had some great stories he could tell, and he was probably very happy and healthy.
Well, he chose that life, so we can assume that is was satisfying to him. Also, we can certainly admire the skills he had, skills which are now lost to the vast majority of humanity. I can imagine that providing everything for oneself would give a sense of mastery and control which would be satisfying.

However, if I try to imagine myself in his place, it seems to me that once those skills had been acquired and then put into practice for a number of years, life would become routine and full of repetitive physical effort. What I would miss would be the finest achievements of the human race to date: its art, music, and literature. In the modern world we have available to all of us what was once the province of the rich, powerful, and privileged alone, namely direct access to the finest in art, music, and literature. I don't think he got any of that in the wilderness.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Well, he chose that life, so we can assume that is was satisfying to him. Also, we can certainly admire the skills he had, skills which are now lost to the vast majority of humanity. I can imagine that providing everything for oneself would give a sense of mastery and control which would be satisfying.

However, if I try to imagine myself in his place, it seems to me that once those skills had been acquired and then put into practice for a number of years, life would become routine and full of repetitive physical effort. What I would miss would be the finest achievements of the human race to date: its art, music, and literature. In the modern world we have available to all of us what was once the province of the rich, powerful, and privileged alone, namely direct access to the finest in art, music, and literature. I don't think he got any of that in the wilderness.
I agree to a point, however, literature is available to anyone especially if you live near a town with a library, and the share programs they have enable you to order just about any book you want for free. In some remote areas, there are programs where you can order your books from the library by mail. I know that this is available in Austrailia and have heard of it in Canada as well.

As to music, while I enjoy an occasional live show, I make my own, and most of the stuff coming out as "popular" music today is barely identifiable as music.

I have never been a great fan of most art either, although I do enjoy paintings by Charlie Russell
http://cmrussell.org/about/about-charles-m-russell

I tend to find my art in the ice crystals forming on the steams or sunrise over the mountains, storms painting landscapes across the praries, the flow of movement from a wild animal, transient, but magnificent and always changing, so I guess I am pretty easy to please.

Point being, not everybody has the same likes or dislikes as everybody else.

I watched Alone in the Wilderness about Dick Penneke again last night. He was in the Alaskan bush for 35 years.
He still received care packages including books from his brother and other friends, but it takes a very special kind of person to enjoy that amount of seperation for months on end. I agree that the labor is unending, but he notes that he found a lot of pleasure in hauling wood, "it seems to make my food taste better" he is quoted in the show. Some people find a lot of satisfaction in being tired at the end of the day from hard manual labor. They are fulfilled by it, and take great pride in what they produce.

Anyone that can do it gets a lot, but they give up a lot too. It all depends on what is important to you as an individual.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:47 AM
 
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All my respect to the choice of that man, but l do not understand it and see it as a very fragile personal emotivity, I mean ..is the rejection of contemporary reality a mental illness ?? the social structure imposes competitiveness, absurd struggles it is true.. but I could not live without all that naughty stuff

and now let me have a fresh white sparkling glass of wine, l need to reload my batteries
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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I'll bet he lived an interesting, and very satisfying life, he probably had some great stories he could tell, and he was probably very happy and healthy.
Where is the picture? I bet he does not have many teeth left.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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Well, he chose that life, so we can assume that is was satisfying to him. Also, we can certainly admire the skills he had, skills which are now lost to the vast majority of humanity. I can imagine that providing everything for oneself would give a sense of mastery and control which would be satisfying.

However, if I try to imagine myself in his place, it seems to me that once those skills had been acquired and then put into practice for a number of years, life would become routine and full of repetitive physical effort. What I would miss would be the finest achievements of the human race to date: its art, music, and literature. In the modern world we have available to all of us what was once the province of the rich, powerful, and privileged alone, namely direct access to the finest in art, music, and literature. I don't think he got any of that in the wilderness.
I doubt that life would become routine at all, sure there are some things he would need to do daily, like fire up his wood stove, and make sure he has food to eat.,,But I don't see how living with nature, and all her other inhabitants could ever prove dull and routine. We all have "repetitive" physical efforts that are required daily, do we not...like going to work each day, just so we can pay the hydro bill, or the mortgage...This mans art, and music come from the greatest source of all...nature, and I'll bet no day is like the last.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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I would freak out the first night. No TV? No shower? What about toilet paper??????
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