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Old 05-18-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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[quote. Another example is Somalia. Famines started in the rural areas that the ruling elites did not need- not the cities which they needed.[/quote]


Not true. In general most third world countries rely on local production of almost everything. Items such as food are cheap and available. What caused the famine was the dislocation and interruption of the growing/fishing/hunting cycle. The vast majority of food there came from 2 sources. Teff (a type of sorghum which is a grain that is easy to grow) and is used to produce breads and seafood. There is of course chicken and beef and vegetables. What happened was that the civil war displaced people and they couldnt fish or grow grains well enough to transport food to the cities. The people in the cities got hungry and mobbed the countryside, stripped it bare then the people went back to the cities. and more mob violence ensued until it settled down into little fiefdoms owning a city block or 2.
The vast majority of the people who died were killed in this mob violence. Perhaps 50% of the total population. Not by starvation.
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Another assumption that urban people will automatically need to forage for food in the country side. Many rural areas may run out of food first.
Forage is forage, beech tree bark will remain in-place until such time as someone is hungry enough to motivate them to strip the outer bark, scrape the inner bark and begin boiling it to mush. Forage will not disappear quickly.

Anyone in any area that focuses on store-brought groceries, will see holes on the shelves after the first day, and the shelves will be picked clean on the third day.

Rural or urban makes no difference. All store chains work the same way.



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... I have driven for days though rural pine belt counties in the South where working farms were few in number and I bet nearly all of the food was shipped in.
I do not doubt that.

Most 'farming' today is mono-crop. An entire farm is dedicated to one crop, on week each year there is 'food' available, but only that one crop of food. The next week it is gone for another year.

When petroleum stops flowing, those crops will stop soon after ward.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: northern Alabama
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I hope it never gets this bad -








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Old 05-19-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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don't hope, plan and prepare-in case it does.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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We are on our way there. And if things really go south, it will probably be much worse. Even something as simple as beef is not so simple here these days.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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your "ordinary" person wont be able to cope, not only haven't they prepared they haven't even given it a second thought either, when everything goes "pear shaped" they will be taken by surprise and the only thing they will do is panic.
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Old 05-19-2016, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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We have a prepper society here NC . Nor' Easta has a great point we as prepper tend to be loose lip and
storing too much at home. In Saluta NC actually has a professional prepper weekend coming upwe will camp out and "get with the program" . Yesterday a seasoned prepper showed me his AR 15 and we discussed 9 mm Turus PT 92's which we will purchase soon. We buy our 20 year shelf food fro The Jim Bakker Show due to his prices and quality food best in the country. Wise came in second. Glenn Beck advertises a few good companies as well. We will begin pot planting , canning and also a pet
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Old 05-19-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Fore warned is fore armed.

Long shopping lines should not effect any self-sufficient prepper.

Store what you eat, eat what you store, produce what you eat.

If you are producing foods now that you do not eat, maybe take this into consideration. Spring is the time to apply these kinds of changes.

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Old 05-19-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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We have a prepper society here NC . Nor' Easta has a great point we as prepper tend to be loose lip and storing too much at home. In Saluta NC actually has a professional prepper weekend coming upwe will camp out and "get with the program" . Yesterday a seasoned prepper showed me his AR 15 and we discussed 9 mm Turus PT 92's which we will purchase soon.
Professional preppers hmm.

We have professional survivalists here, called 'guides'. There are a few schools, it is a state license and requires guides to be bonded. I have a bunch of guides.
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Old 05-19-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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We have a prepper society here NC . Nor' Easta has a great point we as prepper tend to be loose lip and
storing too much at home. In Saluta NC actually has a professional prepper weekend coming upwe will camp out and "get with the program" . Yesterday a seasoned prepper showed me his AR 15 and we discussed 9 mm Turus PT 92's which we will purchase soon. We buy our 20 year shelf food fro The Jim Bakker Show due to his prices and quality food best in the country. Wise came in second. Glenn Beck advertises a few good companies as well. We will begin pot planting , canning and also a pet
Look into rabbits. I prefer Californians. Not only are they good for meat but the fur is useful and the poop makes great fertilizer and gunpowder. Very versatile.
Chickens are a close second. The problems they have are Depending on where you live they may only lay half the year, They tend to be noisy, They are smelly and their poop is good fertilizer but takes some work to make it that way.
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