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if that's all you have to eat. and if you're just lying around your shelter. So you'd have to take at least 15 deer per year, per person, if you have no stored food, no fish or small game, and no edible plants. You're going to need stored food, traps, nets, snares, trotlines, fish poison, bird lime, bait, predator-poison, edible plants, small game and deer, all of it. You're also not going to get much else done, other than feed yourself, and provide for heat/shelter.
You'll have to be preserving food whenever possible, cause there will be times when there's little or none to be had, locally, for weeks or even months at a time. Lewis and Clark's men almost starved several times, even tho they had access to elk and bison for much of their journey.
without rat-wire or metal buckets/drums, it is very hard to keep rodents and insects out of your stored food. You'll need a lot of heavy-duty crockery. :-) Can you make such? It's a very serious matter, if you are ever forced to live like this, instead of it being a fantasy (for people ignorant of the facts).
You can need much more food if you are "living rough", stressed, being pursued, working hard,, etc, and then a lot more if it' cold.
Lean meat has only about 60 calories per oz, only about half of an animal's live weight is edible meat. Most deer are juveniles or does, not big old bucks. :-) So the average live weight of a deer is 100 lbs, not 200.
The Corps of Discovery starved several times, but it was due to the fact that they were pushing West, so they were not following the migratory patterns of game animals. They also had a difficult and hungry time crossing the Bitterroot Mountain in the winter because of the terrain and weather conditions, and because game animials in the Bitterroot were almost non existant. So yes, if you go places where there is not a food supply, you will starve.
We've covered squirrels, rabbits and deer. Do you intend to start a similar thread about every North American game animal?
[quote=joe from dayton;36902628]The Corps of Discovery starved several times, but it was due to the fact that they were pushing West, so they were not following the migratory patterns of game animals. They also had a difficult and hungry time crossing the Bitterroot Mountain in the winter because of the terrain and weather conditions, and because game animials in the Bitterroot were almost non existant. So yes, if you go places where there is not a food supply, you will starve.
We've covered squirrels, rabbits and deer. Do you intend to start a similar thread about every North American game animal?[/quote]
I was wondering the same thing?! As garvan reads each new chapter of his "Survival for Idiots" book, are we going to have to hear the breakdown of calories - hanging weight + weather conditions < no other food supply = it won't work. (Sorry, just got done helping the 8th grader with Algebra...couldn't resist ).
In the last century when I was studying (in the library) native peoples, there was a seal hunter equation for Inuit/Eskimo tribes. Don't recall it exactly but essentially, something like 3-5 hunters could obtain enough kills for a larger group.....I think.
Now, of course, about the only relation seals have to deer in this situation is that they are the "cattle" of the region.
Finally, there was another item that in the cold of winter, they are there in their igloo, bundled up, not moving much, reaching into stored bins around them for food........don't quite recall how the pooping issue was handled.
What fat blimp eats 3 lbs of meat a day? How someone that immense is surviving an apocalyptic event is beyond me although living off body fat while the thin people perish is a possibility
What fat blimp eats 3 lbs of meat a day? How someone that immense is surviving an apocalyptic event is beyond me although living off body fat while the thin people perish is a possibility
People with more body fat can obviously go longer without food.
If Gunkid is correct about the calories available in venison 3# per day would be woefully inadequate for an active adult male. Activity determines caloric need. Climbers in the Himalayas often lose twenty pounds or more on an expedition despite a calorie intake of at least 6000 and up to 8000 calories per day. Sixty years ago Brad Angier discussed trout as a wilderness survival food. He believed that the calories burned while angling exceeded those of the fish.
Gunkid is a criminal psychopath. It's a shame because he's well read and has a great deal of knowledge applicable to survival, particularly wilderness survival.
What fat blimp eats 3 lbs of meat a day? How someone that immense is surviving an apocalyptic event is beyond me although living off body fat while the thin people perish is a possibility
That was my question. An 8 ounce pack of sliced turkey lasts me about a week. That is supplemented by maybe a pound worth of fish. How could anyone possibly eat 3 lbs of meat per day, or 21 lbs per week? You would have no energy for survival; you would just be lying around digesting.
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