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Old 06-11-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Deagel.com is one source that I'm scrutinizing to see if I can decipher baloney. One correspondent
equated individual salary income to GNP a separate map? He said incomes in the 50k range would
be diminished to 11 k not able to provide goods and services in extreme inflation to survive. There
is reference to war, and mass disruption of supply and demand.? This source needs another look
yet gaining popularity by end-timers.
You're on the right track. The fact that one of the Washington boys went after you proves it.

Suddenly he's no longer playing the dimwit redneck. "Linda_d'' (it's interesting that he knew the exact spelling ) is likely sitting in the next cubicle or maybe she and MTSilvertip are one and the same. There must have been a conference in the unit this morning to decide what the link should be.

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Biggest Mystery On Internet Solved? Deagel Site Completely Exposed With Tom Clancy Link?!

WOW!

Those guys must be the ones that Linda_d from New York references when she thinks of the off the wall doomers when she speaks about anyone that preps or does self suffiency.

I've seen some wacko sites before, but that one takes the cake!
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Old 06-11-2015, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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You're on the right track. The fact that one of the Washington boys went after you proves it.

Suddenly he's no longer playing the dimwit redneck. "Linda_d'' (it's interesting that he knew the exact spelling ) is likely sitting in the next cubicle or maybe she and MTSilvertip are one and the same. There must have been a conference in the unit this morning to decide what the link should be.

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You forgot to take your meds this morning again didn't you.
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Old 06-11-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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"Linda_d'' (it's interesting that he knew the exact spelling ) is likely sitting in the next cubicle or maybe she and MTSilvertip are one and the same.
You suggesting that MTS has pulled a Bruce Jenner on us...???
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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You suggesting that MTS has pulled a Bruce Jenner on us...???
???

Read his previous post. Does it sound like the good ol' boy we all know? It sounds like governmentese, e.g., reference as a verb. His ad hominem attack reads like one of Linda_d's. His admiration for that poster shines through.

I'll take LordyLordy/ognend. He's a leftist because he can't grab 75 sections of prime grazing land and become a cattle baron, but he's about as likely to be a government agent as you or I.
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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Read his previous post. Does it sound like the good ol' boy we all know? It sounds like governmentese, e.g., reference as a verb. His ad hominem attack reads like one of Linda_d's. His admiration for that poster shines through.
I don't really think MTS has any "admiration" for anybody on CD...much less Linda_d. I read his above comment to mean that he figures it's a whacko website of the sort that would really get someone going, who was the type to discredit preppers as being 'conspiracy theorists'. Exactly like the Linda_d person, who thinks that only weather-related events are likely to happen here in the good ol' USA.

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I'll take LordyLordy/ognend. He's a leftist because he can't grab 75 sections of prime grazing land and become a cattle baron, but he's about as likely to be a government agent as you or I.
You can have him!
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Old 06-11-2015, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Depopulate 78%? That's great news for traffic in Los Angeles! Can't wait for the day.
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Old 06-11-2015, 06:33 PM
 
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Biggest Mystery On Internet Solved? Deagel Site Completely Exposed With Tom Clancy Link?!

WOW!

Those guys must be the ones that Linda_d from New York references when she thinks of the off the wall doomers when she speaks about anyone that preps or does self suffiency.

I've seen some wacko sites before, but that one takes the cake!
I'm completely lost. Is it just me or are these sites poorly written? I can't tell what they're talking about half the time. They assume the reader knows everything already, which I guess is true since their audience is conspiracy theorists. But let me get this straight.

There is a secret, unknown company out there known as Deagle, which is actually a subsidiary of the nonprofit foreign policy think tank Stratfor, which works with the US government and the Russians to depopulate America by running guns? And Tom Clancy was murdered because he used the things they did as plot devices in his books?
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Old 06-11-2015, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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One problem with a financial crisis lowering incomes to let's say from 50k to 11 k is that the value of 11k would exchange as 5k or poverty. This 5k would further dilute if there is no retail available ....FOOD!! ( no interstate commerce, distribution beyond a slight impact from FEMA ( unable to get to point B). Some Americans are prepared to extend life 6 months ( maybe if not murdered, looted , because you don't have hollow point in your Berreta).....…We affluenia misfits will never survive. We be silly.
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Old 06-12-2015, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Montana
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Deagel.com is one source that I'm scrutinizing to see if I can decipher baloney. One correspondent
equated individual salary income to GNP a separate map? He said incomes in the 50k range would
be diminished to 11 k not able to provide goods and services in extreme inflation to survive. There
is reference to war, and mass disruption of supply and demand.? This source needs another look
yet gaining popularity by end-timers.
Didn't bother tracking down the links, but in the late 70's and very early 80's inflation was 12-14% and mortgage rates were 16-18% for a short period. You couldn't get a 30 year fixed, and salary raises were typically 1/2 the inflation rate or up to the inflation rate. Financially, all but a very few lost significant economic ground. You can still see the financial impacts today in the baby boomer generation IMO. The front end of the generation that were in houses etc. prior to the inflation have generally done far better economically then the ones the were locked out of houses etc. by the inflation, because they had no hedge against the devaluation, and had salaries that looked good, but didn't buy what the same salaries bought just a few years earlier, and continued to be devalued at a pretty brisk pace until sometime around 82-83.

I doubt incomes will be diminished in dollar amounts the US, and I don't think Social Security will fail, but I do expect rampant inflation at some point soon, due to all the money printing and social welfare spending in the US. Basically inflation will devalue the currency to the point that the debt becomes manageable and social spending of all types (in real terms) is significantly cut - along with the value of salaries/income sources. Whether you cut salaries or devalue them, the economic effect is the same, but the causes are a little harder to identify in an inflation scenario for the average joe.

I also see potential for a hyper inflation scenario, but believe the government will not allow deflation as proposed in the OP - people would revolt under that scenario. Avoiding deflation can easily be done by juicing the money printing presses, but that creates inflationary pressure that will be just as devastating economically, but harder to identify as a political policy problem in time to affect the policy changes needed, and less likely to cause intense social upheaval.

The price for free government bread and circuses is our liberty, and once our liberty is surrendered, the price will then be the free bread and circuses, and we will be powerless to do anything about it at that point. No conspiracy, just a naked power grab using people's own selfish nature and laziness against them IMO.
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Old 06-12-2015, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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"Oh no, you mean black helicopters."

Hey; I FLEW black helicopters.

Glad to see the reference to the Carter years. When "Jimmuh" was president the Dow Jones Industrial average and the price of gold were equal at around $820. They can fool with interest rates, but thy cannot change the principles of economics. In 1915 you could buy a cow with a $20 gold piece. Today you can buy a cow with that same $20 gold piece, but a $20 boill won't get you very far down the meat counter.

So, what has changed? The value of the real items have not changed. Many people understand our economy. As more people experience that "Aw crap" moment they begin to consider their options. They consider where they would rather be during the adjustment. They come to places like Maine.
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