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View Poll Results: How long would you last bugging out?
days 14 20.90%
weeks 7 10.45%
months 7 10.45%
years 12 17.91%
decades 17 25.37%
unsure 10 14.93%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-27-2015, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Way too much Mad-Maxx fantasies living in some folks minds.

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Old 06-27-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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How long does it take to die from lack of dietary fat? When people just live on trout and salmon, they eventually get sick and die from a nutritional disorder. Deer meat has not very much fat. One meat that IS fat especially at certain times of the year is bear. I am pretty isolated in a coastal mountain forest area. Locals have already planned what bridges to blow (wink) to keep out the California hordes.

But fishing is cheap and quiet and doesn't require ammo. What about high fat sea foods, such as sea urchin roe?

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Old 06-28-2015, 01:09 AM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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Ever eaten sea urchin roe? Sort of like eating fishy smelling yellow snail snot. I think I'd rather die...
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Old 06-28-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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The sea urchin gonads are not yellow, they are orange. Orientals eat them, but then, they eat anything.

This looks like a pretty good book> https://books.google.com/books?id=Pl...encies&f=false

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Old 06-29-2015, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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I don't know anything about sea urchin gonads. I do know that birds and mammals are mighty tasty! If you're planning to bug out in semi-starvation mode, you should learn about the birds and mammals in your area (or whatever area you'll be in). Know how to spot and ID tracks, scat, rubs, calls. Watch some vids on how to clean out game of the type you'll be hunting. Fishing is another way to get quality protein. Stock up on tackle and lures; learn how to run a trot line and use a cast-net for bigger catches.
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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I don't know anything about sea urchin gonads. I do know that birds and mammals are mighty tasty! If you're planning to bug out in semi-starvation mode, you should learn about the birds and mammals in your area (or whatever area you'll be in). Know how to spot and ID tracks, scat, rubs, calls. Watch some vids on how to clean out game of the type you'll be hunting. Fishing is another way to get quality protein. Stock up on tackle and lures; learn how to run a trot line and use a cast-net for bigger catches.
Bears are a great resource for fat. Bear Grease is easy to eat and digest, does wonders for leather, makes your skin nice and soft, heals wounds, makes the flakiest pie crust ever, and serves pretty well as oil for a lamp.

One bear can give you 50lbs + of rendered grease, (fall bear, Spring bears have used their fat in hybernation).

Some fish like salmon and trout have a lot of oil, if you leave the skin on instead of flileting, and have enough oil to offset protein poision.

Buffalo are another great source of fat. Deer, Elk, and Moose can have quite a bit of fat, but some of it can taste pretty nasty.

Birds and small game usually don't have much fat, with the exception of animals like possum, beaver and marmot, (woodchuck/groundhog), but you have to know these things going in.
Rabbits don't have a lot of fat and can cause Rabbit Starvation, (protein poisioning) if you don't have some form of fat to eat with the meat.

So fry that jackrabbit up in a pan of bear grease, and you have nutrition and a tasty meal
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Folks in avocado country can obtain fat easily. Nuts are a good source of fat as well.

Fat content of nuts

Let's not forget the good old acorn.

Fat content of nuts
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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Birds and small game usually don't have much fat
Geese do!

When we cook a goose, it's just dripping with fat! We save it and keep it in a jar for use with other foods!
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Geese do!

When we cook a goose, it's just dripping with fat! We save it and keep it in a jar for use with other foods!
Domestic geese and ducks yes, wild, not as much.

I hunt wild ducks a lot, and have taken some Canadian Honkers and Brant's, as well as snow geese. Pretty lean. I usually have to include some bacon fat to keep the meat from drying out with them.

Grouse, wild turkey, partridge, even doves are pretty lean meat.

Domestic goose grease is great for a lot of uses, so I don't blame you for saving it
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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I know how to track and fish and all that... Here's the dietary disorder I was thinking of- MTS mentioned it- Protein Poisoning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation I have heard of prospectors in the Sierra Nevada got sick and even died of eating nothing but trout, as they were so easy to catch.

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