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get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning did you??
its a pity most people don't get it and never will, they think it'll just be a few days, maybe a week or two, then the govt will have sorted it and its back to "business as usual", they don't realise the govt IS the problem!!
anyway I expect i'm wasting my breath as usual, prepping isn't about unemployment, illness, rising prices or a minor black out, that's just "normal life", been there, done that, got the T shirt, i'm talking about the bigger picture, the longer term, but then nobody else seems to be able to see "outside the box" anymore.
its a shame. but that's modern life these days, nobody can see further than the end of their nose, next week/next month? hell most cant see past next weekend.
Burning wood in a valley, with winter temperature inversions, can get nasty, but it's better than freezing.
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Unfortunately, real wood stoves have been mostly banned in the name of "clean air" even though burning natural wood is far from the biggest (or most dangerous) polluter in the city. They were just "low hanging fruit" for zealous politicians to ban and then claim they were "doing something good" about air pollution.
That also varies by region -- real wood stoves are very popular in Northern New England, and New Hampshire in particular hasn't jumped on the EPA bandwagon. A good number of my neighbors manage their own woodlots, are self-sufficient for heat. I have plenty of trees, but their mostly pine and so would require special provisions to burn for heat.
I don't like the new anti-pollution standard from the EPA, but it applies only to newly manufactured wood heaters, doesn't force anyone to get rid of their older models. Properly maintained, wood stoves last pretty much forever.
Every time there's a power outage, the whole county smells like woodsmoke, so you know a lot more people have stoves and fireplaces than just the folk who routinely use them for heat.
I see what you're saying, but I was also referring to a "worst case scenario". As I understand pellet stoves burn cleaner and produce a more even heat. If things got really bad and supplies cut short, the whole world isn't going to become toast. However, it would be a problem for those with pellet stoves because the supply of pellets would dwindle away.
I remember the days when wigwam burners were used to dispose of chips, bark, and scraps, pretty much anything that couldn't be used as lumber. Then came the push to market the material rather than just burn it. Oregon and Washington outlawed the use of the burners. Most of the burners are gone now, although there are a few of the rusting relics that can still be seen in Oregon. The Hunt for Oregon Wigwam Burners
Dual fuel pellet stoves are set up to burn dried corn. The popularity of that varies with the price of corn. Back when corn was $0.25/bushel it was a very popular fuel in the midwest. Prices surged 5 years ago and people switched back to wood pellets. Now corn prices are dropping again. If I were going to install a pellet stove, I would definitely pick one with dual fuel capability. Most corn in the USA is grown for fuel anyway, though it gets fermented to ethanol and the brewer's grains left over get fed to cattle. Fermentation just uses the carbs, the oils, proteins and fiber come through unchanged. The residue would probably make good presto logs, except it has to be dried, which costs a lot of energy.
NASA just announced a near miss is about to occur 3x the distance of the moon ,only 20 days from now, not soon enough to do any thing about .
Any one else read on that one ?
Do you really think you could do anything about an asteroid impact? You are unlikely to be one of the .001% of the human race that might survive.
That also varies by region -- real wood stoves are very popular in Northern New England, and New Hampshire in particular hasn't jumped on the EPA bandwagon. A good number of my neighbors manage their own woodlots, are self-sufficient for heat. I have plenty of trees, but their mostly pine and so would require special provisions to burn for heat.
I don't like the new anti-pollution standard from the EPA, but it applies only to newly manufactured wood heaters, doesn't force anyone to get rid of their older models. Properly maintained, wood stoves last pretty much forever.
Every time there's a power outage, the whole county smells like woodsmoke, so you know a lot more people have stoves and fireplaces than just the folk who routinely use them for heat.
Oregon requires non-EPA certified wood stoves to be removed and destroyed if a home is sold. I don't know what the compliance rate is for that. I'm still using an old Fisher Mamma Bear that was manufactured 40 years ago. When I sell the place I'll probably hide the stove in the barn and let the new owners decide what to do with it.
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Burning wood in a valley, with winter temperature inversions, can get nasty, but it's better than freezing.
