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Old 05-18-2016, 01:07 AM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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I had a friend who had an iguana farm in Venezuela. I used to go down there all the time until 10 years ago or so. We figured out that he produced about 5 times as much meat as his neighbors who raised cattle.
He also grew about 5000 acres of rice. He had a very nice business until the government shut him down and arrested his family and seized the farm, when they could no longer afford to grow the rice with the high taxes the government imposed on them.
Ain't socialism great.

This is where the US is headed.
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The people of Venezuela are running on empty . Few Cats ,Dogs and pigeons remain as a protein source. Another lesson for Americans too busy with smartphones and Naked and Afraid , Adult Swim and other food for our future unprepared victims...just the wrong food!

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Old 06-02-2016, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Meredith NH
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The people of Venezuela are running on empty . Few Cats ,Dogs and pigeons remain as a protein source. Another lesson for Americans too busy with smartphones and Naked and Afraid , Adult Swim and other food for our future unprepared victims...just the wrong food!
People of Venezuela are feeling the "Bern"
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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I wonder if there are any preppers in Venezuela? Probably not but if there are I wonder how long they can last in this situation.
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Old 06-03-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Several reports from Venezuela have said that all of the violence has been in the urban areas. Reports from the rural areas are saying that it's business as usual. There's a lessen to be learned here.
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Texas and Arkansas
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I wonder if there are any preppers in Venezuela? Probably not but if there are I wonder how long they can last in this situation.

At the official exchange rate a dozen eggs now costs $150 there if you can find them. It sucks to be those deluded folks living on the official exchange rate. On the black market a dozen eggs is $2 because on the black market there is plenty of eggs. So "non official" people there have eggs (which means they have chickens, or they are thieves). So I'd say in our terms in the USA, there are indeed "preppers" there.


That is sad to me that to own chickens means you are a prepper. When I was growing up you either had chickens or you were rich (and even had hot water!) if you lived in the countryside.


Things are so backwards today.
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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At the official exchange rate a dozen eggs now costs $150 there if you can find them. It sucks to be those deluded folks living on the official exchange rate. On the black market a dozen eggs is $2 because on the black market there is plenty of eggs. So "non official" people there have eggs (which means they have chickens, or they are thieves). So I'd say in our terms in the USA, there are indeed "preppers" there.


That is sad to me that to own chickens means you are a prepper. When I was growing up you either had chickens or you were rich (and even had hot water!) if you lived in the countryside.


Things are so backwards today.

Interesting. Like another poster said... I'm guessing people that live out in the country are probably better off right now.

As for things being backwards... You aren't kidding!
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Old 06-03-2016, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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Things are so backwards today.
This is a direct result of industrialization and urbanization. After WW1, the youth left the farms and moved to the cities, where the jobs were. Now we all live near or in cities and commute to jobs. Somebody with a half-neglected garden and a few chickens is now called a "farmer". That's not a farmer. We all need the money from city jobs to pay the mortgages on our suburban or rural homes. It's a rat race, and a trap.

Get out of the trap, as if your life depended on it. Because it will.
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Old 06-05-2016, 09:52 PM
 
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Sugar isn't a good diet staple. Only a tiny percentage of the American South could be called jungle. It's more temperate , but crop production can't compare to the north country. The south is fine for specialty crops, often expensive crops like citrus fruits that pay for the amount spent on fertilizer, smudge pots, etc.

The temperate regions are always the best for cereal crops which are the most important crops. Summer days are long in the north, frequently up to seventeen or eighteen hours. That means plenty of sunshine which means plenty of photosynthesis. Day length at the equator is twelve hours year around.

There's a great deal of information available on agriculture. You can find a good bit to read on the internet.

Note to homeschoolers: teach them physics, chemistry, botany, biochemistry, and physiology. It's not only useful, it's fun.

The people of ancient Athens were almost vegan; it was because of necessity. Soil was poor. There were large areas of rocky land. There was no grass to spare for grazing. The port of Piraeus was too far to bring fish to Athens; people hadn't yet learned how to preserve fish.. The Athenians devoted every square foot to grain and and vegetables. They even imported wine, a staple of the day.

New Jersey, which has a temperate climate, produces some of the world's best tomatoes.
I heard that about NJ, and I hear there are good cranberries too.

I always thought of the southeast as a food growing powerhouse. I guess all the slaves used to do was grow cotton and tobacco then.
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:03 PM
 
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This is a direct result of industrialization and urbanization. After WW1, the youth left the farms and moved to the cities, where the jobs were. Now we all live near or in cities and commute to jobs. Somebody with a half-neglected garden and a few chickens is now called a "farmer". That's not a farmer. We all need the money from city jobs to pay the mortgages on our suburban or rural homes. It's a rat race, and a trap.

Get out of the trap, as if your life depended on it. Because it will.
I have asked this question on here before. At the end, everything we do to earn money is so we can buy sustenance. So why then, is the farmer of any size, is usually considered poor. There is this stigma in this country that being a single independent farmer is like a poor okie from of Mice and Men the book. There is a negative stigma to it.
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