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Old 06-14-2016, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Pray tell...why should they get wealthy from homesteading??

It's a lifestyle; nobody forces them into it. If they can feed themselves, support themselves financially, raise children, etc, then by today's standards they are doing "well". But they won't get "wealthy" that way!
These threads often run it down because you can not get wealthy from it.
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Old 06-14-2016, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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These threads often run it down because you can not get wealthy from it.
Money is just money.

Good health, self-sufficiency and the outdoor life are worth more than money, IMHO.
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:01 PM
 
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Rabbits are pets and Flemish Giants are one of the most friendly and loving breeds. Rabbits have a large body language vocabulary. If you can't enjoy them for their loving nature - leave them alone.
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Rabbits are pets and Flemish Giants are one of the most friendly and loving breeds. Rabbits have a large body language vocabulary. If you can't enjoy them for their loving nature - leave them alone.
They're also very tasty
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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They're also very tasty
Isn't that where PETA comes from -- People Eating Tasty Animals??
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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To get back to the OP question. I have a compact integrated garden 40' X 60' and produce more vegetables then the 2 of us can eat in a year. If SHTF happened I could just double or triple the size of the garden to have barter vegetables. After that I can use another acre or so if I needed to.

40' X 60' is 1/20 of an acre.
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:23 PM
 
Location: MA/ME (the way life should not be / the way it should be)
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Isn't that where PETA comes from -- People Eating Tasty Animals??
i have shirt from a jerky place that says that on the front...

on the back it says

"Tree huggin' is ok.. As long as you're climbing up to your DEER STAND"

Got it as a gift, dont wear it much here in MA, few times i have i got much more backlash than i could care for....
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: MA/ME (the way life should not be / the way it should be)
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Rabbits are pets and Flemish Giants are one of the most friendly and loving breeds. Rabbits have a large body language vocabulary. If you can't enjoy them for their loving nature - leave them alone.

Rabbits are pets.... Until it comes time to butcher em....

I hear many religons would say the same as cows.....

Old frontiersmen would eat their horses....

Lewis and Clark considered dog a delicacy, as do(did) most native americans

alot of people eat frog legs, infact our local grocery store sells em...

Speaking from what i have heard second hand/read, rabbits are cheap, easy to maintain, legal in most jurisdiction as they are a "pet", and tasty (the last i have 1h experience with).

Now i wonder how palatable 'yotes are.... Wild game yes, but year round Open Season most places, and fairly densly populated here (infact a town in MA which originally banned ALL hunting, almost passed an amendment to allow Coyote hunting this past summer due to high density).
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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Now i wonder how palatable 'yotes are.... Wild game yes, but year round Open Season most places, and fairly densly populated here (infact a town in MA which originally banned ALL hunting, almost passed an amendment to allow Coyote hunting this past summer due to high density).
Long time ago, where I used to live, would allow you to take a .22 to the dump, and shoot rats. We loved it for target practice, but it kept the rat population down, as well.
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:18 PM
 
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I was wondering how much land I need to grow the necessary crops to feed a family of five and maybe have a little more to cover for lean periods or to use as barter. You know, just in case the SHTF.
That is the unknown variable that can throw all great plans in the trash.

If you are planting for self sufficiency you also have to consider the land necessary to produce what you can no longer buy or barter. By this, it means looking at what you consume and the necessary quantities to live and add to that the amount needed to cover lean times, hazards and new production to replace previously purchased items.

So if your land currently is producing produce sufficient for your needs, but you are procuring other food products from outside sources, what will it take to replace that outside sourced items through self production? Even a simple thing like adding adding a goat or lamb or even a small cow to provide milk you normally obtain off your land, means you need more land for their occupancy and maybe extra land to create grazing for them.

Another factor is even if you are capable of producing excess products, is the current ability to preserve, store or maintain them dependent on the outside? I can't tell you how many people belief they are self sufficient yet still have to keep hitting the stores for commercial items to keep them self sufficient. So ask yourself what about salt, sugar, baking powder, vinegar, cooking oils, yeast, etc, etc, etc.... If those are items you have to have and are currently obtained off you land, you'll have to come up with alternatives and those alternatives may require land to produce.
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