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Congress really is shoving a lot of Americans into a survival situation. I don't know, maybe it really is best that they just get sick and die. If they are dead they don't need housing or food stamps. It's a final solution to all those small towns that have sunk into poverty because the factories have closed. It's a cinch that if they are so poor they need Medicaid, no other country is going to let them in.
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Why was this post made here is my question. This is becuase it seems as if most regular posters here (ss&p) either outright supported Trump, or based on their other posts, i can infer they prefer him to Hillary, even if they are not fully on the bandwagon.
Why was this post made here is my question. This is becuase it seems as if most regular posters here (ss&p) either outright supported Trump, or based on their other posts, i can infer they prefer him to Hillary, even if they are not fully on the bandwagon.
That's precisely why the OP placed it here, instead of Politics and Other Controversies.
(S)he figured it would be fun to stir up a hornet's nest, then to harass any oppponents....
Since Trump is about to be inaugurated, I did something I haven't done in over 8 years, and haven't admitted to doing for even longer.
Bought a new rifle at a sporting goods store.
Just a single shot rifle, center fire, not even a military cartridge, but under the last regime I had no confidence at all in the system, so what they didn't know wouldn't hurt me.
For the last 8 years, if I bought a weapon, it would be a private sale with no paperwork filed. This is the first time in a long time I felt confident enough to go buy new where I have to file the paperwork. It was a strange experience, but I'm sure glad that we are getting a president that has publicly endorsed our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
I have at least some hope for the future now. The idiots that are going off the deep end because of the election really need to get a life.
That's precisely why the OP placed it here, instead of Politics and Other Controversies.
(S)he figured it would be fun to stir up a hornet's nest, then to harass any oppponents....
No, I put it here because Trump is not going to stand in the way of the radical right anarchists in Congress. As the link I posted points out, they are going to immediately start dismantling the social safety net in America, which is going to throw millions of people into a survival situation. Trust me, it's a done deal. There are no "politics" about it. There may be protests, but nobody is going to stop the train.
You have been very clear that your attitude is, "I've got mine, too bad about everyone else." That is not helpful. How does someone who is 50 years old with cancer or diabetes survive? Hospitals and doctors have gotten used to being paid for their services. Before Obamacare they were dealing with having to treat anyone who showed up at the ER by just closing the ER. When the closest ER is 50 miles away and no closer doctor will take you as a patient, what are you going to do?
We'll be back to exploding medical bankruptcies in short order. If you see it coming early enough, while you still have financial resources, you might be able to move to a country with a functional medical system. That's going to take some research and determination because (surprise!) most countries don't want Americans moving there, and are less than happy about medical refugees. I have several friends who have moved to Costa Rica, and they have to re-certify their income and eligibility for residence on a regular basis, though after they have been there a decade they only have to prove their income once every 5 years.
I have seen the comments here that anyone who can't take care of themselves should just suck it up and die, which seems less than helpful. The rules are changing rapidly, and some of those changes are going to kill people. Are all you folks so wealthy and healthy that this is not a concern?
No, I put it here because Trump is not going to stand in the way of the radical right anarchists in Congress. As the link I posted points out, they are going to immediately start dismantling the social safety net in America, which is going to throw millions of people into a survival situation. Trust me, it's a done deal. There are no "politics" about it. There may be protests, but nobody is going to stop the train.
You have been very clear that your attitude is, "I've got mine, too bad about everyone else." That is not helpful. How does someone who is 50 years old with cancer or diabetes survive? Hospitals and doctors have gotten used to being paid for their services. Before Obamacare they were dealing with having to treat anyone who showed up at the ER by just closing the ER. When the closest ER is 50 miles away and no closer doctor will take you as a patient, what are you going to do?
We'll be back to exploding medical bankruptcies in short order. If you see it coming early enough, while you still have financial resources, you might be able to move to a country with a functional medical system. That's going to take some research and determination because (surprise!) most countries don't want Americans moving there, and are less than happy about medical refugees. I have several friends who have moved to Costa Rica, and they have to re-certify their income and eligibility for residence on a regular basis, though after they have been there a decade they only have to prove their income once every 5 years.
I have seen the comments here that anyone who can't take care of themselves should just suck it up and die, which seems less than helpful. The rules are changing rapidly, and some of those changes are going to kill people. Are all you folks so wealthy and healthy that this is not a concern?
Trust me, I'm pretty certain you've been wrong before so you should be considering several options.
Just your tenor in the first couple sentences tell me you've been scared by a lot of fear-mongering.
Quick question, if you're in a self-described survival situation is it good to panic and make decisions based on fear?
Lastly, focus on what YOU can control. My sibling works a lot with diabetes patients and most of them don't help themselves with diet and exercise. If you have health woes that can be helped by that then you should take responsibility for that and start helping yourself.
Trust me, I'm pretty certain you've been wrong before so you should be considering several options.
Just your tenor in the first couple sentences tell me you've been scared by a lot of fear-mongering.
Quick question, if you're in a self-described survival situation is it good to panic and make decisions based on fear?
Lastly, focus on what YOU can control. My sibling works a lot with diabetes patients and most of them don't help themselves with diet and exercise. If you have health woes that can be helped by that then you should take responsibility for that and start helping yourself.
I'm not the diabetic, that was just an example. It could easily be needing a couple of knees or hips replaced. Don't try to pretend that it's the patient's fault they got sick. More people die in the US from tuberculosis than die of gun violence, and all it takes for that is for an untreated infected person to cough where you can inhale the bacteria.
I'm not the diabetic, that was just an example. It could easily be needing a couple of knees or hips replaced. Don't try to pretend that it's the patient's fault they got sick. More people die in the US from tuberculosis than die of gun violence, and all it takes for that is for an untreated infected person to cough where you can inhale the bacteria.
I was giving an example of trying to at least address what you can control. If that's not possible then it is what it is.
Given the parameters you are setting that you know for sure what is going to happen and if there is nothing you can do about it personally then yes, you're truly screwed in which case this belongs in some sort of grieving forum as this is for preparedness.
So, it would be prudent to consider that things might not happen the way you're thinking and if so what can you do in those circumstances?
Honestly, I'm in my late 40's and every election I can remember had predictions of the "new guy" slashing social security, medicare, throwing granny into the street and every single time it's turned out to be a lie by partisan muck-rakers. You don't remember these sorts of claims in the past?
Don't try to pretend that it's the patient's fault they got sick.
Usually, it is. The human body can only stand so many years of obesity, poor diet, drinking, smoking, drug use, and sedentary life. How many un-hypothetical people do you know who are living that way, refuse to change, and are now suffering for it? Most people don't just all of a sudden "get sick" at age 50. Age 50 is still quite young nowadays. But it's old enough to suffer from poor choices. So-called "lifestyle diseases" are what is killing most people off - gun deaths and TB are very low compared to that!
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Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell
As the link I posted points out, they are going to immediately start dismantling the social safety net in America.....
And just who do you think is going to keep paying for this "social safety net"??? Fewer and fewer people are making good money nowadays, compared to say, the 90s. The very same people you claim "can't survive" are the ones you want to drain financially to pay for others. As Margaret Thatcher once said, "The only problem with socialism is that eventually, you run out of other people's money".
Amen, Maggie!
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How does someone who is 50 years old with cancer or diabetes survive? .... When the closest ER is 50 miles away and no closer doctor will take you as a patient, what are you going to do?
First of all, they should not be going to the ER. ER stands for "Emergency Room", not a place for doctor-less people to crowd into for every sniffle and bruise. ER's don't treat cancer or diabetes. Get that through your head. ER's are for folks with emergencies - and they should not have to wait around for 4 hours while busy staff attend to those with routine non-emergency issues.
Secondly, they should not expect young, healthy people in their 20s and 30s to pay $5-600 per month for Obamacare, when all they need are much cheaper 'catastrophic' policies. But NO, Democrats expect these young healthy kids to subsidize older, sicker folks with pre-existing conditions. Ain't gonna happen. Much cheaper to pay the $900 annual tax penalty. That's why the system is falling apart. That's why prices for ACA policies have become unaffordable.
Cripes, did every liberal in the country flunk math???
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