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Liberals have all the heart in the world. Everything must live. Even a one-legged dog with no teeth, no sight and no hearing. Death is to be avoided at all costs, including the majority of your money and mine, if needed. The main trouble is that liberals have all the heart, but no brain. Reality matters not. It's all about how we feel. World's gonna be a cruel place for that mentality going forward...
Usually, it is. The human body can only stand so many years of obesity, poor diet, drinking, smoking, drug use, and sedentary life. How many un-hypothetical people do you know who are living that way, refuse to change, and are now suffering for it? Most people don't just all of a sudden "get sick" at age 50. Age 50 is still quite young nowadays. But it's old enough to suffer from poor choices. So-called "lifestyle diseases" are what is killing most people off - gun deaths and TB are very low compared to that!
And just who do you think is going to keep paying for this "social safety net"??? Fewer and fewer people are making good money nowadays, compared to say, the 90s. The very same people you claim "can't survive" are the ones you want to drain financially to pay for others. As Margaret Thatcher once said, "The only problem with socialism is that eventually, you run out of other people's money".
Amen, Maggie!
First of all, they should not be going to the ER. ER stands for "Emergency Room", not a place for doctor-less people to crowd into for every sniffle and bruise. ER's don't treat cancer or diabetes. Get that through your head. ER's are for folks with emergencies - and they should not have to wait around for 4 hours while busy staff attend to those with routine non-emergency issues.
Secondly, they should not expect young, healthy people in their 20s and 30s to pay $5-600 per month for Obamacare, when all they need are much cheaper 'catastrophic' policies. But NO, Democrats expect these young healthy kids to subsidize older, sicker folks with pre-existing conditions. Ain't gonna happen. Much cheaper to pay the $900 annual tax penalty. That's why the system is falling apart. That's why prices for ACA policies have become unaffordable.
Cripes, did every liberal in the country flunk math???
I mean, seriously. What were all these people doing while the rest of us were working, saving and thinking of the future? No way ALL of these people with nothing else but SS at age 60 had some tragic story to tell. I'm thinking they were the bunch smoking in the parking lot of the HS waiting for the kids to get out trying to get dates while the rest of us who graduated got jobs or went straight into college.
I was giving an example of trying to at least address what you can control. If that's not possible then it is what it is.
Given the parameters you are setting that you know for sure what is going to happen and if there is nothing you can do about it personally then yes, you're truly screwed in which case this belongs in some sort of grieving forum as this is for preparedness.
So, it would be prudent to consider that things might not happen the way you're thinking and if so what can you do in those circumstances?
Honestly, I'm in my late 40's and every election I can remember had predictions of the "new guy" slashing social security, medicare, throwing granny into the street and every single time it's turned out to be a lie by partisan muck-rakers. You don't remember these sorts of claims in the past?
Oh, give me a break. This group is full of nut cases who think Yellowstone erupting or mobs marauding through the countryside are realistic scenarios. Contrast that with the multiple votes in the House of Representatives and Senate to remove medical care from millions of Americans, which was only blocked by presidential veto.
They may think they postponed the dissolution of the ACA, but a retired health insurance company CEO says that most companies will pull out of the exchanges in 2018 (they have to make the decision by March) and premiums at the remaining companies will go sky high because of the uncertainty in the market. Congress already reneged on the the deal by only paying insurance companies 12% of the reimbursement they were promised for taking on all the pre-existing conditions.
It's not "my thinking," it's the law as passed by Congress and will be signed by Trump. Done deal. There is no going back, and there is no "muck raking" about it. It's reality. The bomb throwers in Congress will have their way until (maybe) Trump grows a spine.
The prudent thing to do would be to prepare for a survival situation. For many it's already too late, but a good first step would be to talk to an attorney about asset preservation. The bill is going to land in your lap, and for many people the only option will be medical bankruptcy. The problem is that once you file bankruptcy you have to wait before you can do it again, and the bills will just keep coming. They can't take your house in bankruptcy, but the bank sure can if you don't pay your mortgage. It's going to suck to be 55 or 60 years old, sick or partially disabled, and living under a bridge. You better start planning now how you are going to survive or you won't last a year.
Liberals have all the heart in the world. Everything must live. Even a one-legged dog with no teeth, no sight and no hearing. Death is to be avoided at all costs, including the majority of your money and mine, if needed. The main trouble is that liberals have all the heart, but no brain. Reality matters not. It's all about how we feel. World's gonna be a cruel place for that mentality going forward...
You don't have to be a liberal to be a decent human being.
I mean, seriously. What were all these people doing while the rest of us were working, saving and thinking of the future? No way ALL of these people with nothing else but SS at age 60 had some tragic story to tell. I'm thinking they were the bunch smoking in the parking lot of the HS waiting for the kids to get out trying to get dates while the rest of us who graduated got jobs or went straight into college.
Where were you when guys I know were wearing their body out doing heavy physical labor while their wife or kid got leukemia or other expensive disease? A guy I went to high school with went through over a million bucks keeping his daughter alive correcting birth defects and rehabilitating her so she could live a normal life. I suppose you think all those guys dying of black lung are just worthless punks.
You my think you are virtuous, but you are just lucky.
If you want to bugout do so. I hear all these entertainers/celebs/athletes saying if Trump won -- they'll go. You're all still here, so even if Trump falters on his promises -- so YOU too have faltered on your promises, no?
If you want to bugout do so. I hear all these entertainers/celebs/athletes saying if Trump won -- they'll go. You're all still here, so even if Trump falters on his promises -- so YOU too have faltered on your promises, no?
Rich people have no concerns. It's just posturing. They can go live anywhere they want and have their health care 100% paid for. Celebrities are in the business of attracting attention they don't deserve. You may remember Ted Nugent spouting that if Obama was elected, Nugent would end up in jail or dead. That's what you get when you listen to a celebrity; an endless stream of worthless BS.
As usual, the people who are going to get screwed are either poor or middle class.
Oh, give me a break. This group is full of nut cases who think Yellowstone erupting or mobs marauding through the countryside are realistic scenarios.
Then why are you hanging out here pestering us, when you know that nobody here agrees with you? You won't change any of our minds about socialism. If we're such nut cases, go find a forum where there are liberals who agree with you, and won't argue with you. Or...maybe you just like conflict?
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The prudent thing to do would be to prepare for a survival situation..... It's going to suck to be 55 or 60 years old, sick or partially disabled, and living under a bridge. You better start planning now how you are going to survive or you won't last a year.
Most of us here ARE preparing for a survival situation, and just got soundly reamed as being "nut cases" for doing so. A good many of us are over 55-60 years old (I'm 69) and all these scare-tactic scenarios do not apply to us. I'm quite confident that we'll last out the year - safely at home, not under a bridge.
As for the ACA, everybody survived just fine without it until 2013, so why can't we continue to survive without it? Why not trade it in for a better thought-out plan? Or will only that one do, in your mind?
Where were you when guys I know were wearing their body out doing heavy physical labor while their wife or kid got leukemia or other expensive disease? A guy I went to high school with went through over a million bucks keeping his daughter alive correcting birth defects and rehabilitating her so she could live a normal life. I suppose you think all those guys dying of black lung are just worthless punks.
You my think you are virtuous, but you are just lucky.
First off, why did you choose physical labor? Bad grades in HS? Everyone gets free K-12. I know LOTS of guys that didn't go to college and chose to be a framer or start their own landscape business. Out of the small town I grew up in there were a handful of guys that did labor for other people and spent EVERY night sitting on a bar stool blowing what they earned. I went back after 10 years and yup, same guys in the bar on the same bar stools.
Those are the guys I know that have zero today and will be on SS only with no other income.
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