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Old 11-23-2016, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Early America
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You were wise to use the qualifier "sounds like."

As a matter of fact, I was in a book group with the professors at Athens State University until a couple of years ago. The most liberal prof there was one who had worked with Medgar Evers in the 1960s, pushing for integration. He retired. The book that brought the president of the university out to participate in the discussions was "Left Behind." Painting all universities with the same brush is stereotyping, just as much as any other stereotyping. Anyone at UAT being taught a form of Marxism instead of hard subjects or football would be an outsider, to say the least.

If you want to state that Minnesota has some strong liberal bias, or that California does, I'll agree. However, the social pressures within even the groups there is less Marx related than a push to flatten the playing field for women and minorities. I also note that an article from '89 is well over twenty years old and not a particularly good cite. The changes on campuses in response to the Arab Spring, and then to its aftermath, and to Putin and his changes to Russia all happened well after your cite, as indeed did most of the internet.
Wow, you have nothing here but I will respond anyway because I'm feeling generous.

Thank you for confirming that you were not a recent student or instructor.

What professors think and say outside of their academic roles often is not consistent with curriculum they are REQUIRED to teach. I trust you are not so naive that you don't know this.

As for your book club, maybe they didn't want to confide in you, or perhaps they are oblivious. Some are oblivious, some embrace it, and some don't care. It's just a job. Or maybe ... they were filling your head with rebranded marxist opinions but you failed to recognize them as such.

I gave you the link and clearly stated that it's to help understand the beginning of rebranded marxism. I also stated that it's up to you, if interested, to further research how it evolved from there. Instead, you dug your heels in and don't want your belief system challenged. I understand, and don't care. So, bye and Happy Thanksgiving.
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Old 11-23-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Might want to draw the family closer, too.

We are off and running on a new chapter in American history. It will be this, not EMP, not WW3, not a pandemic, not an invasion, and not a zombie apocalypse, that will be our SHTF.

"These are times that try men's souls" - Thomas Paine
I was thinking of starting a thread on it as well. While things are roses and sunshine right now in Silicon Valley, I'm the first non-Chinese to begin working with a group of Chinese that is amazingly well here in the US. I used to be amazed at how my wife's Viet family could work as a group, but these guys are way bigger. Way more intertwined.

As the prices of real estate in Shanghai and Beijing keep skyrocketing, cashing out and getting the money to a foreign shore. It's almost like seeing how Cortez must have seen the new world....man this is going to be easy, everyone here fights with ancient weapons.

The war on the US front will be economic. The fighting units will be the tired, regulated, proud legitimate corporations and their forecasting methods and everyone out for themselves vs the equity/lending/leading nimble project companies...tied by nothing more than continued relationships in other ventures and with overemphasis on the clear bright lines that segregate others.

If you'd like a precursor, check out Malaysia.
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Old 11-23-2016, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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The war on the US front will be economic. The fighting units will be the tired, regulated, proud legitimate corporations and their forecasting methods and everyone out for themselves vs the equity/lending/leading nimble project companies...tied by nothing more than continued relationships in other ventures and with overemphasis on the clear bright lines that segregate others.
This I what I and many here have been thinking all along.

The unfortunate thing is that money and power have become more important than people, who have no purpose other than being useful consumers of the junk being marketed to them. As the average paycheck continues to dwindle, those consumers will buy less and less of the junk, as they will not be able to afford it.

It is not a matter of inflation. We are in a deflationary spiral, and will continue down that road until we reach the nadir. Thus I speak of depression. In the 1930s most people did not recognize what was happening, while it was happening. They just called it "hard times", and that is what we're beginning to see now. Many do not realize that during the Great Depression, many ordinary folks who still had a job, didn't even know there was a depression!

We have social safety nets today that didn't exist in the 1930s. Today's bread lines are invisible; SNAP or EBT cards hide the poverty in America. SSDI and unemployment insurance hide the rising tide of employment non-participation. These are not "entitlements" so much as a necessary flotation of the affected populations to keep the system going.

Thus I speak of socialism, as it tends to rear its ugly head during hard times. Prosperity is the only real cure for socialism; the political system can't banish it.

And thus I speak of civil war, as those who find a life of economic depression and a rising tide of socialism to be insufferable, will rebel against what they perceive to be the cause - money paid to minorities, jobs given to immigrants, and obscene profits taken by the corporate sector that hides its money overseas. This leads to accusations of bigotry and xenophobia.

Talk about "draining the swamp"! Our whole economy needs to be purged, scrapped. It is based on borrowed money that can never be repaid. That's the only way they could keep it propped up. When the whole heap collapses under its own weight, many innocent people will be swept up in the devastaion.

Thus I speak to those who would prepare, who would survive: it is here, it is now, get your shyt together and do what you know needs to be done. Don't get caught in the way of this tsunami.

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Old 11-24-2016, 07:47 AM
 
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Yes we do live in trying times and I've never seen the level of destruction by gun violence committed by our youth growing up. School was always a safe place, so was walking back and forth to school. I don't know how that switch flipped and what has created this violent streak.

I was talking to my friends son about this as we drove him back from college and his response was interesting. He said that it's because they think they're entitled and want everything handed to them. Now they're afraid that it's all going to be taken away and the minorities blame white people for it. Interesting, but it doesn't explain the gun violence against those of the same minority group. (?)

There was a fatal bus accident recently in which a young man was driving too fast and rolled the bus killing several children. The mother of the bus driver responded with I'm sorry but it was Gods will that my piece of crap son killed your children. REALLY(?)

There seems to be a total lack of accountability in society today with the it's all about me mentality and it's everybody else but me mentality. I doubt the schools have much to do with this mentality. It's taught from a young age by ignorant people raising ignorant people, and so the cycle continues.

Do I want to bug out into an underground bunker, raise my own food, and stock pile ammo? Nah. I live in Mayberry with educated people that actually care about their neighbors. It's easy enough to get discouraged by what's going on in the world, but nothing is all good and nothing is all bad. There will always be rough patches. It's how you handle them that's important.
This right here ^^^^

Lots of posting on here sound like the rantings before Y2K. Yet just more folks appearing to be afraid of their own shadows. Or maybe how they are inside is how they think everyone else is due to their lack of real life experiences. Instead of hiding behind a stock pile of food and weapons. Come out of the woods, really its not that scary out here.

What good does stock piling guns and bullets do? What kind of world do you think this is going to be to live in IF your dreams come true? These sound like rantings of what some hope to be, not based in any kind of reality.

I've been an adjunct professor on the inside of a college. Have you even been inside a college? None of your belief in marxist teachings are going on.
Your are quoting DEAD for decades Russian leader who has never stepped inside the US. I have not heard anything of Lenin in decades, since i was in high school world history 40+ years ago. Yeah the US is going to use him as someone to look up to.

This election will go down in history. Yes the small groups that are picketing need to stop. Most of these are college kids who want to be on TV. They'll get over it. Your boogey man Geo Soros has nothing to do with it.
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Old 11-24-2016, 08:19 AM
 
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This right here ^^^^

Lots of posting on here sound like the rantings before Y2K. Yet just more folks appearing to be afraid of their own shadows. Or maybe how they are inside is how they think everyone else is due to their lack of real life experiences. Instead of hiding behind a stock pile of food and weapons. Come out of the woods, really its not that scary out here.

What good does stock piling guns and bullets do? What kind of world do you think this is going to be to live in IF your dreams come true? These sound like rantings of what some hope to be, not based in any kind of reality.

I've been an adjunct professor on the inside of a college. Have you even been inside a college? None of your belief in marxist teachings are going on.
Your are quoting DEAD for decades Russian leader who has never stepped inside the US. I have not heard anything of Lenin in decades, since i was in high school world history 40+ years ago. Yeah the US is going to use him as someone to look up to.

This election will go down in history. Yes the small groups that are picketing need to stop. Most of these are college kids who want to be on TV. They'll get over it. Your boogey man Geo Soros has nothing to do with it.
Those who think like this ^^ ... are why we need to keep on prepping! There are too many of them.
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Old 11-24-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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You aren't in any danger from 'my type.' Quite the opposite.

With those who think like what you posted, I'd rather be dead. I know where I'm going. Obviously you think this world is the end for you. Good luck with that, you're going to need it.

Never answered my Y2K question. I know the answer. ha-ha Boy was it fun on January 2nd. Took away all doubt of who was right. Spent all night in your front yard all locked and loaded and nothing happened.

That prediction and its fail was as reliable as your rantings here.
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Old 11-24-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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With those who think like what you posted, I'd rather be dead. I know where I'm going. Obviously you think this world is the end for you. Good luck with that, you're going to need it.
You do realize, don't you, that you stumbled onto the Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness forum???

We pride ourselves on holding civil conversations here about a topic that you are apparently not interested in, and that's OK. We don't go wherever you hang out, and tell you that you are all wrong and why we think so.

Please pay us the same courtesy.
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Old 11-24-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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You do realize, don't you, that you stumbled onto the Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness forum???

We pride ourselves on holding civil conversations here about a topic that you are apparently not interested in, and that's OK. We don't go wherever you hang out, and tell you that you are all wrong and why we think so.

Please pay us the same courtesy.
Haha, yeah he's probably another poster that was a rabble-rouser in disguise. Ha, I went to college & that, & .50 my man, gets you coffee. Nor, these type people coming here knowingly -- & then acting like they're spouting clarification & words of wisdom -- are a dime a dozen. Maybe a bit of silver not cash should be the new term, eh?

Look, anti-preppers won't need YOUR help unless -- THEY (oops, how can that happen, they say?) run on hard times. Oh then, how much they'll put tail 'tween legs & come begging for food, clothing & shelter. I really get irked by babble, totally here to misdirect this forum, just for their Machiavellianism to be seen & heard, unfortunately.

Ha, college-man, look it up if you can spell it?
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Old 11-24-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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You aren't in any danger from 'my type.' Quite the opposite.

With those who think like what you posted, I'd rather be dead. I know where I'm going. Obviously you think this world is the end for you. Good luck with that, you're going to need it.

Never answered my Y2K question. I know the answer. ha-ha Boy was it fun on January 2nd. Took away all doubt of who was right. Spent all night in your front yard all locked and loaded and nothing happened.

That prediction and its fail was as reliable as your rantings here.

I guess you know all the answers. Great. Happy for you. No need for you to be here then, is there?


Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
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Old 11-24-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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I feel that the whole country is more vulnerable now, than before the election.

Part of Self-Sufficiency & Preparedness is being ready to face virtually any form of adversity, not just the usual "things that have happened here before". I am the one who coined the term "weather prepper", that infuriates so many folks here with their little 72-hour kits that will get them by, until FEMA comes along. Not saying that you are in that category, but so many are: flashlight - check, sleeping bag - check....etc.

Those things are nice to have for a temporary power outage. How do they help people when blood is running in the streets? The urbanite who feels that it's nonsense to move out of Dodge, is exactly the one who I am addressing here. A garage full of 'preps' won't help if there's a riot going on right outside that garage.

Those who are not prepared for violence in the city streets, or in the suburbs, are second-guessing themselves. Please re-think your position, and get to safety. You know what's in the cities, right?

So do you suggest someone who is say 3 years away from retirement "get out of Dodge" and go live in the woods? Just pack up and go? Just quit their job and go? Do they sell their house, or just take off?

My guess is your retired and have been awhile, so you don't even consider what you're saying to people who aren't in your situation.

What's your plan when you need a doctor? Are you going to yank your own teeth out with a pair of plyers?

While I agree with you that we are seeing signs in society today that are alarming, how realistic is it for a working person to just pick and go.

And you're wrong on the division, race is most certainly an issue, the media is stirring the pot. Anytime we hear about a police shooting on the national news the race of the cop and the one killed is always different. A local story in my area about a black cop shooting a black guy barely got a mention. Even though witnesses said it was an unwarranted shooting...story just fell off the map. Because the race angle couldn't be played up. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this is being done to divide people.

Do you know who George Soros is? If you don't do some research.

Quite frankly I wouldn't want to live in some "Mad Max" society.
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