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Old 05-18-2017, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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I try to keep a weather eye out for developing events. Of course, I can't spend my life checking everything, and I'm not that big a worrier. Still, the wind seems to be blowing in these 3 directions:

1) Economic dislocation
2) Riots and civil disturbance
3) War or political crisis leading to war

Do you have any other ideas regarding the possibilities? How long do you envision it will take for some semblance of normalcy to return? My guess is, 3 to 6 months for the worst of it.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:07 AM
 
Location: northern Alabama
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4. Cooling of the earth's climate.


We do not like change. A volcanic eruption like Tambura could trigger a cooling phase. We are accustomed to growing certain crops in certain areas. If this changes, we will have problems adjusting.
We don't deal well with this kind of change.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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Stock Market Crash n Hyper Inflation will bring a Great Depression like none ever seen before, Because of what walks among Us will make it 10X worse than the first Great Depression ....
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Massive unemployment seems to be the most likely scenario these days. The number of economic and technological factors necessary to precipitate a huge dependent and potentially desperate population is adding up.
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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4. Cooling of the earth's climate.


We do not like change. A volcanic eruption like Tambura could trigger a cooling phase. We are accustomed to growing certain crops in certain areas. If this changes, we will have problems adjusting.
We don't deal well with this kind of change.
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Stock Market Crash n Hyper Inflation will bring a Great Depression like none ever seen before, Because of what walks among Us will make it 10X worse than the first Great Depression ....
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Massive unemployment seems to be the most likely scenario these days. The number of economic and technological factors necessary to precipitate a huge dependent and potentially desperate population is adding up.
All good possibilities.

Any guesses as to how long until the worst of it is over?
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:39 PM
 
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Here are my thoughts

-extended grid down (either by cyber attack, emp, major solar flare, terrorists, etc.. The result is all the same)
-civil war/major societal upheaval and riots. (with our current political climate this seems more likely by the day)
-global pandemic. (i thought I saw a story just yesterday that Ebola is back again in central Africa) a major global pandemic is bad news.

To a lesser extent I also am concerned about a financial collapse debt bubble. Sooner or later it has to pop right? It seems to defy the laws of economics but I guess if you can just keep printing money that people will take...

And a limited scale nuclear exchange. I don't worry about full out nuclear war because if hundreds and thousands of warheads are going off I'm dead or will wish I was dead. I'm worried about a limited scenario with like 10-30 nukes going off. Hopefully not likely but who knows, it seems more likely now than it did 5 or 10 years ago
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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I'm more optimistic than I've been anytime in the last fifty years.
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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-extended grid down (either by cyber attack, emp, major solar flare, terrorists, etc.. The result is all the same)
-civil war/major societal upheaval and riots. (with our current political climate this seems more likely by the day)
-global pandemic. (i thought I saw a story just yesterday that Ebola is back again in central Africa) a major global pandemic is bad news.
I bolded out the two that I had not listed, but agree that these two would be catastrophic.

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I'm more optimistic than I've been anytime in the last fifty years.
Yes, and I'm sure I know why - but don't become complacent because of it!
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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IMHO - there are two divergent means of collapse:
1. __ Withdrawal from usury, socialism, and subjugation by individuals; and
2. __ Inability of government to function, from the effects of unrest, disobedience and insufficient revenues.
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[1] If 3% (10 million Americans) withdrew, that would trigger an avalanche of greater proportions.
[2] When the outrages from increased taxes, loss of liberties, increased bribes and punitive actions finally breaks down the donor class, it will trigger disobedience, tax protests, and civil unrest.

With a collapse of “the system,” and the loss of tax revenues, not only are the Federals affected, but also the State and local governments. And if the “Dollar bill” is no longer acceptable / fungible, all billionaires become zero-aires.
. . .
I can't predict what will happen when the outstanding private debt (allegedly over 145 trillion) cannot be paid, since a) not enough dollars can exist, and b) dollar bills ceased to exist.

This might well be the core of the future conflict : usurers / creditors versus victims / debtors.
And since the usurers are outnumbered, it's more likely that they will foment a grand distraction, while they pilfer as much as they can and tuck it away for safe keeping. . . Like now.

REF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financ..._United_States
● ". . . The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269.6 trillion and debts of $145.8 trillion to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion."

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
● How much U.S. currency is in circulation?

● There was approximately $1.5 trillion in circulation as of February 22, 2017, of which $1.47 trillion was in Federal Reserve notes.

U.S. Population (2017) : 326,474,013
>>> $4,502.65 per capita <<<

*NOTE: Federal reserve notes (dollar bills) are debt, and thus part of the national debt. Therefore the maximum value of circulating dollar bills can never exceed that debt (currently over 19 trillion). And only by deficit spending can CONgress authorize more notes. Any balanced budget will trigger an economic emergency and recession, not unlike the dot com bust of 1999-2000.
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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Natural Disaster!

Ex: Yellowstone blows it's top, meteor strike, etc.
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