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Well, I can't say much about lizard people--I have no data or personal experiences with which to confirm or deny. Being somewhat a fallibilist by nature and extremely skeptical of most everything, I'll withhold judgement.
However, I can most certainly confirm the existence of Snake People. They are indigenous to and largely infest a region of the nation that begins with a "W" and ends with a "DC."
And now... tide is in. Back to my serfing. (Actually, I'm trying to "tune up" an Aladdin Kerosene lamp today. They are temperamental little critters at times)
Well, I can't say much about lizard people--I have no data or personal experiences with which to confirm or deny. Being somewhat a fallibilist by nature and extremely skeptical of most everything, I'll withhold judgement.
I'm not surprised that you're one of Davey Hume's boys. I rather like him myself.
There is a stigma because the government wants a dependant, helpless population; to that end they have used the media to portray people who exercise even the slightest shred of reasonable caution as conspiracy driven, tin-foil hat wearing nutjobs.
I say this being raised in NYC... I wish my fieldcraft skills were better if SHTF but, 7 years of active Army life has provided me some measure of use to any prepper community (besides food...)
There is a stigma because the government wants a dependant, helpless population; to that end they have used the media to portray people who exercise even the slightest shred of reasonable caution as conspiracy driven, tin-foil hat wearing nutjobs.
I say this being raised in NYC... I wish my fieldcraft skills were better if SHTF but, 7 years of active Army life has provided me some measure of use to any prepper community (besides food...)
Being able, in austere conditions, to turn a pig or chicken into meals (safe to eat), and emergency medical skills such as being able to stitch someone up are the most in demand skills I have seen (I do quite a bit of "observing other groups"). At least that is what I observe in the south. NY, Minnesota and Idaho may be different.
There is a stigma because the government wants a dependant, helpless population; to that end they have used the media to portray people who exercise even the slightest shred of reasonable caution as conspiracy driven, tin-foil hat wearing nutjobs.
I say this being raised in NYC... I wish my fieldcraft skills were better if SHTF but, 7 years of active Army life has provided me some measure of use to any prepper community (besides food...)
Exactly.
This is not the land of the free anymore.
We are 3/4 of the way to communism.
Of course the gov and 1 percenters don’t want anybody to catch on to that fact hence the cuckoo nutbar propaganda.
Exactly.
This is not the land of the free anymore.
We are 3/4 of the way to communism.
Of course the gov and 1 percenters don’t want anybody to catch on to that fact hence the cuckoo nutbar propaganda.
I agree, except that it isn't really "the 1%ers,"
but just a fraction of those 1%ers.
1%ers will be even just as dominant in a SHTF world as they are currently. With their currently almost inexhaustible funds, how easy do you think it would be for them to stockpile the gold coins of a SHTF world? (The street name for that currency is "bullets"). Anyway 1%ers already have fortified, ventilated bunkers stocked with non-perishables, blades, firearms and ammo.
...and S will HTF! Either from:
1) a Solar Flare (which almost blacked out of America in 2012, but we got lucky by a day and, it just hit Quebec and that Hudson Bay area).
2) some crap popping off between the US and whoever is giving NK their missles (cuz' those dirt eaters damn sure aren't building their own) or,
3) the Apophis meteor in 2036 that has a 67% chance of harmlessly landing in the drink but, if it hits land hello 5 year winter (now that meteor is about the size of a stadium, so definitely not a world-ender but, definitely end whatever country it lands in except Russia / Siberia or Far Northeast Canada)
The sobering fact is that, except for maasive fallout or being right in an impact zone, the biggest threat to any individual's survival will be other, more desperate individuals.
People who I've met and wh self identify as survivalists or "preppers" are so preoccupied with whichever calamity that they are prepping for that they aren't appreciating and living life now. For example, one prepper I know missed a birthday celebration because he was doing some kind of prepping activity. They seem to disengage and isolate themselves. Just my observations.
They seem to think that they are going to cheat death. None of us gets out of here alive.
No man is an island. No one person can survive alone. We all need each other. I have not seen/read/heard about a single prepper who has been able to convince me that he/she is the exception. Even if the prepper has grown the food and canned it, someone else made the jar.
Self reliance is something I wholeheartedly support. To me, that's something very different than prepping.
We all need each other. I have not seen/read/heard about a single prepper who has been able to convince me that he/she is the exception. Even if the prepper has grown the food and canned it, someone else made the jar.
Spoken like a true collectivist and dependency advocate.
No, we do not "all need each other." That's collectivist nonsense. We need each other's resources and skills at times. Big difference. But once those resources are procured, tell me why "we need each other"? So someone else made the jars. So someone else made the cook range. So someone else made the 2x4s in the cabin. So someone else made the kerosene lamp. So what? Are they all going to vaporize because they are used in isolation?
Here's a rather simplistic analogy for you, but it gets the point across: I'm a dirt farmer in 1750. I buy a plow from you, the blacksmith, with whatever the bartering medium is at the time. Assuming your product is a good one, I don't "need you" for many, many years to come, maybe never. What I needed was your product, not you. Once I have that, I'm set. I paid you for it. We go our separate ways. We're both happy.
Now apply that idea to the essentials needed today. Once I have them, what is so baffling to you folks that I can use them in isolation without ever "needing you" again? A "prepper" MINIMIZES (not eliminates) his/her dependence on others. No sane person ever claimed that he/she can exist 100% autonomously. And stating that "preppers" claim they can exist 100% autonomously is an underhanded logical fallacy straw man argument that is far, far too commonly used by collectivists.
Ultimately, I need your jar, not you. Doesn't matter to me whether you made it or it dropped out of the sky.
No, we do not "all need each other." That's collectivist nonsense.....Ultimately, I need your jar, not you. Doesn't matter to me whether you made it or it dropped out of the sky.
Well said.
Nearly every preparedness-minded person who claims to need a "group", has in mind a 24/7 perimeter defense using firearms. My reasoning is, if you are far enough from the madding crowds, you don't need such a group. I think the whole "street gangs invading the countryside" scenario is bullshyte. Those with an urban mentality will stay in the cities, where they feel safe, in familiar surroundings.
Likewise, there is a tremendous divergence in perceptions of 'the country', 'rural', and 'remote'. That would be a good topic for another thread. Urbanites envision 'remote' to mean a gated community in a suburb. Some think it is a small town. Virtually NO city resident imagines truly remote property for what it is, as the idea that anyone would voluntarily live "that far out" is unthinkable to them.
So I agree 100% that we do NOT need anyone except those we wish (if any) in an emergency, if we are well-prepared in all other respects. We need our gear, but not not necessarily other people. You pay your money, you get your stuff. If you are happy living alone now, you will be happy that way no matter what.
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