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No. Normal working people have been the same, for the 63 years I've been on earth.
You have a house, you go to work, you try to pay the bills, you get a car, you deal with home repairs and car repairs, your kids go to school, etc. No one is hanging out in the woods, paranoid about one thing or the ohter (except crazy Uncle Harry).
There have always been those people scared of a "the bomb" or the end of the world, as some Twilight Zones show (people hiding in bomb shelters as the world is destroyed by a bomb). But most people are busy living productive lives, enjoying life as best they can, with no time or money for hunkering out in the woods like the Unabomber.
This is pretty much how my life is going down also , I am 55 ,life is so short that I am too busy trying to cram what i can into it .
Some prepper's I have met have views that make me really question their sanity . Not all certainly ,but more than one . There are alot up here in Wa and Idaho .
I saw one on TV that got terribly freaked out over something and caused his wife to start crying saying she could not do this anymore . I felt terrible for her and mad at him because his paranoid delusions were scaring his wife to death . I wish i could recall now what it was that freaked him out but it was on that prepper's show approx 2012 when it happened.
IMO, the media and pop culture (who no coincidence) is predominantly far left leaning, predominantly democrat, liberal, globalist, etc..
They do not believe in individual responsibility and they put their faith in the government as their savior. They want everyone to worship and depend on the government for as much as they can.
They do not want people to be able to be independent and not need to rely upon the government.
If people do not need the government and can be independent then they are harder to control. The left wants people who are easy to control.
I do believe in UN agenda 21 or 2020. I think the globalists want to continue the urbanization of America and to gradually erode our national sovereignty.
I definitely think there is a political element to why preppers and survivalists are collectively mocked. I also think that gun culture and support is very strong in those groups and that's another "low hanging fruit" for the leftists and pop culture talking heads to mock. People mock or fear what they don't understand.
And many of the liberals, academics and pop culture types live on either the densely populated right or left coasts. The majority or preppers/survivalist live in the middle. Many actively seek out areas that are very sparsely populated. The elites on the coast can't understand that.
People also fall into the normalcy bias and lack critical thinking skills to challenge ideas.
Our country also is being over run by a militant politically correct movement that is all but destroying any possibility of productive debate so those who disagree with each other or those who don't understand one another are less likely to even bother with dialogue and trying to share ideas any more. I think preppers/survivalists stopped caring what others think, realize they will be portrayed as outcasts and no longer care what others think and don't care if they change anyone else's opinions but would rather spend their energy and resources on their own pursuits.
Just my rambling .02 cents take it for what it's worth
This is pretty much how my life is going down also , I am 55 ,life is so short that I am too busy trying to cram what i can into it .
There are those who cannot put up for later, and I try to help those out, and I put aside supplies for them, for later. I also plan to employ a couple of them, later.
But most of those I hear this from are trying to cram entertainment and amusement into their life, and have no time for putting away for later, because they worship their amusements and believe the government will always be their to bail them out if things go bad. Or maybe they think they can loot their way through bad times. I have been told by more than one person that their plan was to steal from preppers if the SHTF, and that is why we have guns.
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Some prepper's I have met have views that make me really question their sanity . Not all certainly ,but more than one . There are alot up here in Wa and Idaho .
I saw one on TV that got terribly freaked out over something and caused his wife to start crying saying she could not do this anymore . I felt terrible for her and mad at him because his paranoid delusions were scaring his wife to death . I wish i could recall now what it was that freaked him out but it was on that prepper's show approx 2012 when it happened.
You can find nut cases in every group, and the media loves to parade the nutcases in front of their audiences. This is why I said you don't have to be very old to see how much more ridicule we get than we used to. No one should get freaked out over anything, but we all should put up for later, when things will not be as easy as they are today. (And people should have put up for later back when I began to talk about this, in 1996, since things are already beginning to get worse.)
History has shown that "normal life" as Americans have known it for the past 60 years are anything but normal. So then, is this where "history nerd" does not believe history's lessons? Or was there some other meaning to the statement?
There are those who cannot put up for later, and I try to help those out, and I put aside supplies for them, for later. I also plan to employ a couple of them, later.
But most of those I hear this from are trying to cram entertainment and amusement into their life, and have no time for putting away for later, because they worship their amusements and believe the government will always be their to bail them out if things go bad. Or maybe they think they can loot their way through bad times. I have been told by more than one person that their plan was to steal from preppers if the SHTF, and that is why we have guns.
You can find nut cases in every group, and the media loves to parade the nutcases in front of their audiences. This is why I said you don't have to be very old to see how much more ridicule we get than we used to. No one should get freaked out over anything, but we all should put up for later, when things will not be as easy as they are today. (And people should have put up for later back when I began to talk about this, in 1996, since things are already beginning to get worse.)
I was born and raised on a cow calf op in Texas on the Brazos River. I have had a very hard partying / hard working life worldwide with zero regrets. I actually have goals in life that I am accomplishing that have nothing to do with amusement or entertainment . I have no plans to steal from anyone if the world ends . I don't need to . None of us are going to live forever if some disaster strikes.
The govt really does not figure into this if something really epic happened because there most likely would BE no govt ..
I was born and raised on a cow calf op in Texas on the Brazos River. I have had a very hard partying / hard working life worldwide with zero regrets. I actually have goals in life that I am accomplishing that have nothing to do with amusement or entertainment . I have no plans to steal from anyone if the world ends . I don't need to . None of us are going to live forever if some disaster strikes.
The govt really does not figure into this if something really epic happened because there most likely would BE no govt ..
I will not comment on the first part of your post, but I agree with the second part of it.
For those that are older have you seen the value of preparedness and self sufficiency vastly decline in your lifetime?
Answer seems simple enough to me...For decades, the "powers that be" have worked tirelessly to create more dependent world, as dependence is VERY profitable for those suppliers of "needs" (just ask the tobacco companies, for example!).
Part of creating dependence is to psychologically turn the world upside-down by flattering the dependents and/or making their weakness seem cool and trendy while at the same time marginalizing and mocking the independent ( and far less less profitable to multinational corporations) folks and lifestyles. From there, herd mentality takes over and does the majority of the work.
Now I'm not just talking about the rare "extreme survivalist" types, but regular life in general. So many people these days can't even change their car's oil or grow their own food... or for that matter even stay alive without access to an army of paid service workers to do even very mundane tasks for them. This is by design in my opinion.
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Part of creating dependence is to psychologically turn the world upside-down by flattering the dependents and/or making their weakness seem cool and trendy while at the same time marginalizing and mocking the independent ( and far less less profitable to multinational corporations) folks and lifestyles. From there, herd mentality takes over and does the majority of the work.
Now I'm not just talking about the rare "extreme survivalist" types, but regular life in general. So many people these days can't even change their car's oil or grow their own food... or for that matter even stay alive without access to an army of paid service workers to do even very mundane tasks for them. This is by design in my opinion.
In other words, yes... it's a conspiracy, man.
Seems to work on a macro scale as well.
For instance the rules under which disaster funding are given favor cities and states that mismanage their own government finances.
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