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Old 12-24-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Murica
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There is a point where if you disconnect from the public too much you're seen as a vagrant or drug-addict or something.. I think this is what OP was referring too..

If I wear hiking boots or camo to a store, even in the South East, drive a older cheap car, or try to skip small talk like sports scores, then there is always almost instantly problems.. Never-mind building codes and zoning issues with self sustained electricity and water.. Like putting liens on and condemning property for solar power or cisterns even in extremely rural locations..
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Old 12-24-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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There is a point where if you disconnect from the public too much you're seen as a vagrant or drug-addict or something.. I think this is what OP was referring too..

If I wear hiking boots or camo to a store, even in the South East, drive a older cheap car, or try to skip small talk like sports scores, then there is always almost instantly problems.. Never-mind building codes and zoning issues with self sustained electricity and water.. Like putting liens on and condemning property for solar power or cisterns even in extremely rural locations..
I am aware of groups in my area that have been working to adjust zoning to be more friendly toward off-grid construction.

The idea of self-sufficient homesteading has been very popular among 'back-to-the-land' people in my area.
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Old 12-24-2018, 07:59 PM
 
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There is a point where if you disconnect from the public too much you're seen as a vagrant or drug-addict or something.. I think this is what OP was referring too..

If I wear hiking boots or camo to a store, even in the South East, drive a older cheap car, or try to skip small talk like sports scores, then there is always almost instantly problems.. Never-mind building codes and zoning issues with self sustained electricity and water.. Like putting liens on and condemning property for solar power or cisterns even in extremely rural locations..
I think your being too sensitive or nervous. Even where I live in the great lakes in a very blue state it's totally normal to see peoole wearing boots, camo, flannel etc.. No one would bat an eye.
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Old 12-25-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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There is a point where if you disconnect from the public too much you're seen as a vagrant or drug-addict or something.. I think this is what OP was referring too..

If I wear hiking boots or camo to a store, even in the South East, drive a older cheap car, or try to skip small talk like sports scores, then there is always almost instantly problems.. Never-mind building codes and zoning issues with self sustained electricity and water.. Like putting liens on and condemning property for solar power or cisterns even in extremely rural locations..
When I go to an urban area, I wear urban cammo,
then no one can see me, so there is no problem.

(Translated, I wear stuff that blends in with everyone else,
so no one notices me. - OPSEC)
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Old 12-25-2018, 07:03 AM
 
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When I go to an urban area, I wear urban cammo,
then no one can see me, so there is no problem.

(Translated, I wear stuff that blends in with everyone else,
so no one notices me. - OPSEC)
This is good advice/strategy

Just be "the grey man" and blend in as just another regular person that fits in and belongs where they are that doesn't draw any extra attention where others wouldn't look twice at.
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Old 12-25-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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I quit watching those kind of shows almost as soon as they started,
realizing that the lone person almost always has a complete crew
to back them up. When they flew one out, mid season, because
he burned himself, that should have let everyone know it was fake.

Real life? You get hurt, you are your own first responder,
or at best, others in your group are your first respoders.
They might be your aid station, and hospital too.

When I was growing up, a guy rolled his car and slid off into a creek, it didn't submerge, just got trapped in the brush beside the creek, upside down. He rolled his window down (open) and unraveled one sock for string, to let the other sock down to soak up water to keep hydrated (thankfully, the water was at least somewhat safe to drink) until they found him, two weeks later. That is how a real survival situation can play out.
Wait...he was stuck in the car upside down for two weeks?
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Old 12-26-2018, 10:43 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Wait...he was stuck in the car upside down for two weeks?
Yes.
Apparently he couldn't find his K-Bar, to cut
through the floor pan of the car to escape )

Where I grew up, "brush" could include scrub trees
a couple inches thick and the sides of some creeks
were randomly strewn with rocks and concrete slabs,
so I don't know what he would have had to actually
do to escape. Plus, I don't know what kind of injuries
he had.

(I was a little too young to interview him,
to get that kind of details.)
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Old 12-26-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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There really is no stigma attached to a real survivalist, because nobody knows he is one until after he survives a situation that would have killed others by beimg prepared for it or being able to adapt to it. That said, most “survivalists” I have met get the stigma honestly. They tend to be quick to tell others about what they have or what they know, and look down on others who are lacking something in their view. Many of them have been either completely unlikeable, or blithering idiots.

The true survivalist is nothing more than a regular guy who thinks about things logically and works to prepare himself to survive abnormal occurrences. He doesn’t wear tactical clothing and combat boots to the grocery store, or open carry his AR to the restaurant. He blends in, not because he tries to, but because he is a regular guy. You won’t know he is a survivalist until the crap has hit the fan and he is taking it in stride with what he keeps in his pockets and between his ears. Or he helps you out of a ditch in a snowstorm because he has studded tires on his truck and a tow strap or chain to do just that. The stigma comes from all the nutjobs running their yaps and getting attention. The guy never gets noticed who is relaxing at home during the ice storm, cooking a pot of chili on his woodstove by the light of a kerosene lamp, except by those lucky enough to share the experience. Ain’t no stigma in that.

The difference between a pleasant time and a disaster is often nothing more than preparation.
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Old 12-27-2018, 05:51 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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When I go to an urban area, I wear urban cammo,
then no one can see me, so there is no problem.
)

Time out....I'm not sure that would've worked for me...Last time I went into the BigCity it was to the Southside of Chicago. You mean to say I should've worn platform shoes, big, wide, white hat, a purple suit, a fur lined Coat of Many Colors and carried a walking stick like Cosmo Kramer?
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Old 12-27-2018, 05:54 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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The difference between a pleasant time and a disaster is often nothing more than preparation.

….or having your wife show up unexpectedly.
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