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Old 10-13-2018, 03:33 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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^Poor analogy IMO. Who hasn't had a flat tire? I would guess that many, if not most, people have.

Home fires? Much less common, but they do occur and extinguishers are fairly cheap so it's a good safety device to invest in.

An armored car? Very expensive to own and operate, and the chances of needing one are probably less than getting hit by a meteorite. Might as well wear a helmet everywhere you go too.
It really all depends (I'm talking generally here, not about armored cars). Each of us is gambler. Some of us bet on a rosy future, some of us bet on the opposite, and most of us bet somewhere in between. Since none of us have crystal balls, we make our wager and act accordingly.

As for armored cars, I'm sure there are quite a number of now deceased concertgoers in Vegas who could have used found a use for an armored car. Or at least a Kevlar vest. Point is, you just don't know. Personally, I stopped attending anything with large crowds many, many years ago--prime targets nowadays. And I stay out of huge metros and areas with high crime rates. Is that necessary? Maybe. Maybe not. But if I'm not there when some wack job or middle east extremist starts going bang bang, they won't be shooting me, right? As I said, we all decide what sorts of chances we are willing to take.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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It really all depends (I'm talking generally here, not about armored cars). Each of us is gambler. Some of us bet on a rosy future, some of us bet on the opposite, and most of us bet somewhere in between. Since none of us have crystal balls, we make our wager and act accordingly.

As for armored cars, I'm sure there are quite a number of now deceased concertgoers in Vegas who could have used found a use for an armored car. Or at least a Kevlar vest. Point is, you just don't know. Personally, I stopped attending anything with large crowds many, many years ago--prime targets nowadays. And I stay out of huge metros and areas with high crime rates. Is that necessary? Maybe. Maybe not. But if I'm not there when some wack job or middle east extremist starts going bang bang, they won't be shooting me, right? As I said, we all decide what sorts of chances we are willing to take.
Before anyone asks... NO, I didn't proofread that post. (much to my dismay)
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:41 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Before anyone asks... NO, I didn't proofread that post. (much to my dismay)
It isn't bad, as forum posts go.
I think about 40% of posts could have used some editing,
often they need the "cold eye" that comes with seeing the
same post 24 hours after it is written.
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:38 AM
 
Location: Honolulu
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You do realize we actually live in very peaceful times, historically speaking of course. It's no coincidence that the feeling of dread in certain people coincides with our present environment of 24/7 online media that broadcasts many incidents that in years past would have only been local stories or maybe not even reported at all. To me buying an armored car is like never flying on an airplane because it could crash. Or never going swimming because you're afraid of sharks. But hey, it's your money. Whatever makes you happy.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:00 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Learn the lessons of history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jPgljRvzQw
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:11 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Learn the lessons of history:

Happening now in the US, as the Left's Leadership incites violence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octobe...tion#July_days
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demonstrations of workers and soldiers began in Petrograd, demanding that power be turned over to the soviets. The Central Committee of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party provided leadership to the spontaneous movements. On 17 July, over 500,000 people participated in what was intended to be a peaceful demonstration in Petrograd, the so-called July Days. The Provisional Government, with the support of Socialist-Revolutionary Party-Menshevik leaders of the All-Russian Executive Committee of the Soviets, ordered an armed attack against the demonstrators, killing hundreds.
Less than four months later:
https://alphahistory.com/russianrevolution/red-army/
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The Red Army was the military force of the Soviet regime. It was formed in 1918, called into action to defend the new regime during the Russian Civil War. When the Bolsheviks seized power in October 1917 their only military force was the Red Guards.
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I am not a big fan of armored vehicles because of the fuel economy. But years ago I worked on a freight dock and we shipped many automotive parts including door panels. What struck me about the door panels was the weight; they are extremely light weight. Of course they get heavier as they are assembled with the glass and plastic. It would not be too much harder to shoot a hole through one of these door panels than it would be to shoot a hole through a tin can. Of course a bullet could hit the formed rubber in the side arm rest or hardware for the power windows; but thin metal and plastic offer almost no protection for the occupants other than slowing down the projectile. I would not want to be in a car shot at by a .22; let alone anything larger.

Ever since I worked that dock I cannot stand to watch movies where you see bullets ricocheting off cars and producing sparks. They are just not realistic. For most people the best bet is to try to avoid troubled areas and don't count on your vehicle stopping the bullets!

With the new light weight bullet proof fabrics I am surprised that some of this material is not incorporated in the car manufacture?
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Old 10-26-2018, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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This is serious. Some of us have real concerns.

There are firms that specialize in vehicles of this sort. Al Capone was a pioneer, but we have better today. This is one of the best outfits for inconspicuous vehicles.

Alpine Armoring | Armored Vehicles - SUVs - Sedans - SWATs
Why would someone want to shoot me in my car?

I mean, I understand if you're a high profile individual...

But most people aren't shot at for no reason.
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Why would someone want to shoot me in my car?

I mean, I understand if you're a high profile individual...

But most people aren't shot at for no reason.
Go driving in California. It's happens enough it has it's own name, Road Rage.
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Old 10-26-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Why would someone want to shoot me in my car?
I mean, I understand if you're a high profile individual...
But most people aren't shot at for no reason.
What doesn't make sense is why someone would post this question in this thread.
(Well, I can think of ill intended reasons... )
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