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DID YOU KNOW – “English muffins” come from the ancient Welsh tradition of cooking small round yeast cakes known as “bara” [bread] “maen” [stone] on bakestones. “English muffins” were later cooked on a griddle.
To use your bread example, since a loaf of bread costs $2 on a normal day, the day before a storm a few people come in and buy all the bread, whether they need it or not. You would have no choice in the matter, as there would be no bread to buy. As you point out, much of it will go to waste. If the store were to jack up the price to $10 a loaf, those people would not buy up all of the bread, and you would have the choice whether you wanted it enough to pay the price or not.
That is the way capitalism is supposed to work. What we have now is a socialist example, where are people making decisions that affect your choices, wasting resources, depriving you of the ability to pursue happiness, and depriving the grocer of profits that would rightly be his (those profits that would be his are approximately equal to the waste caused by the person who bought up more than he needed, just because they were cheap).
Real life doesn't work this way.
I purchase a $2 loaf of bread on a normal day. It's a crisis, everyone is purchasing bread and a store jack up the price to $10 a loaf. I am so p*ssed at $10 loaf of bread, I walkout without purchasing anything. In fact, I never return to the store with jacked up prices.
Another store still has $2.00 a loaf, but it's sold out. I sad about not having $2.00 loaf of bread. However, I do not feel I was taken advantage of. Therefore, I stay in the store to purchase everything else needed.
Consumer behavior is a factor. Stores lose more by upsetting consumers than they can make rising prices in a temporary crisis
Stores rise prices. There is no government regulation on a local bakeries. While there are no prices on packages, there is handwritten price list which can be change at anytime. There is no socialism at my local bakery.
Funny, you should write this. My son (lives three states away) called today because he tested positive for strep. Amoxicillin knocks it out, and rather importantly, stops it from being contagious in twelve hours.
My strep story:
When my daughter was a toddler, she was running a high temperature. The doctor said take her to the ER. The ER messed up by not doing a strep test. Instead they said it was the FLU.
A day or two later, she had the lacy rash indicating strep became Scarlet Fever. If not caught, strep leaves the throat. It can attack other organs. The results are kidney disease, rheumatic heart disease, or arthritis. It was a leading cause of death in children in the early 20th century.
With Scarlet Fever, she needed a longer round of antibiotics than regular strep. When antibiotics were done, there were repeated urine tests to see if it was hiding in her organs.
All in all, Terracore, you were a lucky kid!
I do consider myself lucky, and lucky that I have access to antibiotics.
My daughter got scarlet fever (lab tested) and she never presented strep throat symptoms prior.
A friend of mine got strep in his HEART (also no known nexus to strep throat). It destroyed two of his valves and he had to have them replaced with mechanical valves and now he's on coumadin for the rest of his life. He was treated with penicillin delivered DIRECTLY into the heart via a tiny pump along with other antibiotics. He presented with general malaise / exhaustion and was basically told to go home and rest and drink fluids but then he started turning yellow because his organs were failing due to insufficient blood flow. Once he was jaundiced he was passed around from specialist to specialist until a doctor ordered an ultrasound of his heart and found some of it was missing. The strep diagnosis came shortly after.
Edited to add (after re-reading your post) my mom, aunts and uncle all got rheumatic fever when they were kids. They grew up in Germany during WWII and spent a lot of time in a bomb shelter without adequate access to nutrition or sunlight. All of them have heart murmurs and breathing problems that have dogged them their entire lives. It's probably a miracle they all survived without any treatment especially considering they would go 10 days or more without eating.
The important takeaway here is that strep is a serious life-threatening disease with an easy and CHEAP cure. Don't try honey or herbal cures for something that can mess you up for the rest of your life. There is an off-the-shelf pharma product that will make you feel better in just a few hours! And it's a cure, not a treatment.
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I purchase a $2 loaf of bread on a normal day. It's a crisis, everyone is purchasing bread and a store jack up the price to $10 a loaf. I am so p*ssed at $10 loaf of bread, I walkout without purchasing anything. In fact, I never return to the store with jacked up prices.
Another store still has $2.00 a loaf, but it's sold out. I sad about not having $2.00 loaf of bread. However, I do not feel I was taken advantage of. Therefore, I stay in the store to purchase everything else needed.
Consumer behavior is a factor. Stores lose more by upsetting consumers than they can make rising prices in a temporary crisis
Stores rise prices. There is no government regulation on a local bakeries. While there are no prices on packages, there is handwritten price list which can be change at anytime. There is no socialism at my local bakery.
When I do eat bread I'd rather have it from sealed grain buckets and a hand or belt driven grinder, which I do. Then when I do make bread, its sour dough which not only deals with the phytic acid, but also acidifies the bread. Even when I make wet doughs for moist finished bread it never goes moldy. Bread in a bag is a storage problem.
I do consider myself lucky, and lucky that I have access to antibiotics.
My daughter got scarlet fever (lab tested) and she never presented strep throat symptoms prior.
A friend of mine got strep in his HEART (also no known nexus to strep throat). It destroyed two of his valves and he had to have them replaced with mechanical valves and now he's on coumadin for the rest of his life. He was treated with penicillin delivered DIRECTLY into the heart via a tiny pump along with other antibiotics. He presented with general malaise / exhaustion and was basically told to go home and rest and drink fluids but then he started turning yellow because his organs were failing due to insufficient blood flow. Once he was jaundiced he was passed around from specialist to specialist until a doctor ordered an ultrasound of his heart and found some of it was missing. The strep diagnosis came shortly after.
Edited to add (after re-reading your post) my mom, aunts and uncle all got rheumatic fever when they were kids. They grew up in Germany during WWII and spent a lot of time in a bomb shelter without adequate access to nutrition or sunlight. All of them have heart murmurs and breathing problems that have dogged them their entire lives. It's probably a miracle they all survived without any treatment especially considering they would go 10 days or more without eating.
The important takeaway here is that strep is a serious life-threatening disease with an easy and CHEAP cure. Don't try honey or herbal cures for something that can mess you up for the rest of your life. There is an off-the-shelf pharma product that will make you feel better in just a few hours! And it's a cure, not a treatment.
I think rheumatic fever may be why I never met my grandfather. My mother never let a sore throat go for more than two days in our family without her taking us to the doctor. She lost her father when she was 9.
A corona virus expert warns that 60% of world could be infected.
Wow. That is a big number, would be helpful to know what death rate per infection is.
I recently posted (not in this forum) a question whether authoritarian regimes could stop epidemics more effectively. Can't find that post now (hmm?)
This is becoming realer SHTF situation for North American continent.
Glad I don't need to fly anywhere but concerned for family that does fly for business.
It is too early to know how much of the world's population can or will be infected, but you can read up on the flu pandemic of 1918 to get an idea of what we are dealing with. The only difference is that this virus is moving about four times as fast, probably due to better transportation.
As for the fatality rate, it is pretty high among the elderly, but I have heard that it is very low among the very young, even babies. (I hope that is right.) Overall, we can expect it to be in the neighborhood of 10%, which is about four times what they are telling us (they are ignoring certain factors in their statistical analysis, not surprising.)
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Originally Posted by Happy in Wyoming
I remember when "experts" stated that AIDS would infect 80% of the population by the mid eighties.
Tells me not to listen to THOSE experts.
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Real life doesn't work this way.
I purchase a $2 loaf of bread on a normal day. It's a crisis, everyone is purchasing bread and a store jack up the price to $10 a loaf. I am so p*ssed at $10 loaf of bread, I walkout without purchasing anything. In fact, I never return to the store with jacked up prices.
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You only think that way, because you have never lived in a true free market economy. Ours has had, for decades, the government's nanny hand on the scales.
TRex2 said: As for the fatality rate, it is pretty high among the elderly, but I have heard that it is very low among the very young, even babies. (I hope that is right.) Overall, we can expect it to be in the neighborhood of 10%, which is about four times what they are telling us (they are ignoring certain factors in their statistical analysis, not surprising.)
6% worldwide fatalities would be a world-changing number in many ways. (10% fatalities (your number) of 60% infected worldwide (Guardian article)). Wall Street investors are probably running those numbers. Loss of consumers, loss of employed workers, slowdown in production due to lockdowns/fewer workers. If elderly are majority of deaths that can be loss of family support, childcare. This virus is already changing cruise business and may change other business models.
I'm sure some will say loss of elderly to coronavirus is possible benefit to younger people. I get the feeling that younger workers would like fewer boomers in the workforce but boomers aren't 80...yet.
Wall Street investors are probably running those numbers. Loss of consumers, loss of employed workers, slowdown in production due to lockdowns/fewer workers.
I don't think they are on top of this yet.
Most of the world can't get their mind wrapped around this,
and the numbers and press releases are designed more
to prevent panic, than they are designed to inform.
I actually knew that. It just turns out that the Bubonic Plague is not very contagious. At least today. Maybe it was more contagious back in the 14th century. Probably. That and the sanitary conditions were undoubtedly much much worse than what we have today.
The human body flea is almost extinct, and is not found in Europe or North America.
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