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Old 04-14-2020, 08:18 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Lotsa pearl clutching in this thread....
And lots of trolling by those suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and delusions of being citizens of the world, rather than citizens of their own country, both of which are useful idiots of the Communists.
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Old 04-14-2020, 03:29 PM
 
Location: moved
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Folks, for the umpteenth time, this isn't about what Trump did or didn't do; or whether China is or isn't at fault. Now we face two pivotal questions:

1. How to bring back our economy, rescuing what broke (both businesses and employees).

2. How to ensure that there is no permanent power-grab; which is to say, how to secure 100% rollback of all "temporary" measures.

We can fight about Trump another day (such as, maybe, in November?). For now, let's deal with the above two questions. They affect us all - regardless of where we stand politically.
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Old 04-14-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: North Alabama
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the US is a much more evil actor when it comes to foreign policy than china is. china is worse when it comes to domestic policy, which seems to have given many Americans a naive notion that their government is the "good guy" that it very much is not.
Tibet, Vietnam, North Korea? Weaponized islands in the seas?

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Old 04-15-2020, 09:12 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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the US is a much more evil actor when it comes to foreign policy than china is. china is worse when it comes to domestic policy, which seems to have given many Americans a naive notion that their government is the "good guy" that it very much is not.
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Tibet, Vietnam, North Korea? Weaponized islands in the seas?
Yeah, I thought when I read that, that it was naive to the point of being disinformation.
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Old 04-15-2020, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Sheffield, England
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I disagree with this, I think it's an unreasonable position to hold based on what is known about how the virus spread in the first place, and about the known facts regarding the minimisation of its spread and influence, driving the quarantine efforts.
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Old 04-15-2020, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Warrior
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Lets not play stupid here! We all know why the word "Wuhan" was deliberately being used.

It's kinda insulting when people think using a forum devoted to preparedness automatically means it's a a gathering of tin foil loonies who will play the dutiful conspiracy theorist part without question. The use of "Wuhan" was intended to incite and play to the Pied Piper ignorant.



Be as politically correct and as racially sensitive as you want but everything points back to Wuhan. It's not about being "rayciss" against Chinese but the virus stemmed from Wuhan. I'm sure there would be no "racially sensitive" sentiments if it were called the "Louisiana Flu".
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Old 04-15-2020, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Warrior
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Folks, for the umpteenth time, this isn't about what Trump did or didn't do; or whether China is or isn't at fault. Now we face two pivotal questions:

1. How to bring back our economy, rescuing what broke (both businesses and employees).

2. How to ensure that there is no permanent power-grab; which is to say, how to secure 100% rollback of all "temporary" measures.

We can fight about Trump another day (such as, maybe, in November?). For now, let's deal with the above two questions. They affect us all - regardless of where we stand politically.





I would have to disagree. Though I fully agree with your other points, I think its important to remember that China ROYALLY messed up. We can't let them off the hook because what they did was a major injustice. And thanks to the CCP, the whole world is taking the same very restrictive measures that China has taken. We're all modeling China's way of handling, albeit it, not as strict or brutal but the point remains.
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Old 04-15-2020, 03:50 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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I disagree with this, I think it's an unreasonable position to hold based on what is known about how the virus spread in the first place, and about the known facts regarding the minimisation of its spread and influence, driving the quarantine efforts.
Way too many indefinites. Pronouns and otherwise.
Start over by quoting a previous message,
and tell us which this you disagree with.
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Old 04-15-2020, 04:15 PM
 
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It’s the wuhan flu. THe virus is from CHINA.
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Old 04-16-2020, 07:50 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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It’s the wuhan flu. THe virus is from CHINA.
Well, it isn't the flu, but otherwise, I agree with you.
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