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I always thought our "gubbermint" had contingency plans for all this. Clearly they don't, and we are being led by a bunch of nincompoops who really aren't sure what to do next. WITHOUT TURNING THIS INTO A POLITICAL DEBATE, please - what are your thoughts from a preparedness angle that could be done to mitigate this and future pandemic type events? We know we should all move to the Idaho redoubt or the Maine woods, live off the land and shoot all intruders. But that isn't practicle or feasible for most of us.
So what are your ideas?
Captain obvious that they are nincompoops. But this was rolled out too fast not to have been pre-planned.
You're right. The will never be a CME powerful enough to destroy the electric grid, and no one will ever call it a Carrington Event, because no such even has ever happened. No one will ever attack us, early on a Sunday morning, wiping out a massive portion of our Naval fleet. And no one will ever detonate a nuclear weapon over a city. These things have never happened in history, so, of course they will never happen again.
Ummm what? "never happened in history so of course they will never happen again"???? Ohhhkay, I'm a bit lost with the logic of that statement.
I guess that's a typo and I take it you mean it has happened in history and may happen again. Well, that's the point isn't it? These things have happened before and, guess what, the world survived. The world adapted. People adapted, during times when there was no prepper culture at all (not that cans of beans and ammo is going to help you if a nuclear weapon is detonated over your heads).
Remember I said prepping is good, but don't be preoccupied with it. With some doomsday scenario, with a fight for survival. A sentiment shared by a previous poster.
If this was pre-planned, then did New York & Brazil miss a meeting?
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I always thought our "gubbermint" had contingency plans for all this. Clearly they don't, and we are being led by a bunch of nincompoops who really aren't sure what to do next.
But this was rolled out too fast not to have been pre-planned.
Did we go through the same pandemic?
What I saw of the response was halting, disjointed, inconsistent and half-assed, like our "leaders" were just flying by the seat of their pants. Masks! No masks! Masks for some! Masks for all, but only first responders get the good kind!
If the response was pre-planned, then did New York City miss a meeting?
"How many were financially prepared?" I could sit here and try to convince everyone I had seriously planned this out and positioned myself well. When the truth is I diversified out of laziness. About 5 years ago, I took my retirement and put it in a 2023 Fund, so the investments are conservative (for anyone unaware, the fund flees to safety with 2023 as my retirement date). I didn't earn as much had I been invested in DOW startups like Uber or Alamo Drafthouse, or in airlines or Disney - good thing, too. My fund is invested in precious metals and AAA bonds. Low risk, lower returns and losses. Laziness, because I parked it and forgot about it. I actually felt guilty that I was not more aggressive. The rest of my assets are liquid, about 2 to 3 years living expenses if I am careful. But laziness, because the CFP required more paperwork than I wanted to do, so it sits there, lol. I am still working, pulling a solid income, knowing I would go batsh!t crazy sitting at home all day without grown up responsibilities. But my hours are my own (sales). The harder I work, the more I earn.
The biggest financial lesson I learned over the years is having cash on hand. Everyone is different on how much, with much of my stash broken up in smaller bills than $50s and $100s. Kind of stuck if you need to pay $50 for a $10 object you just have to have.
Again, if I could keep a straight face, I would appear pretty wise. But it's more like dumb luck.
Ummm what? "never happened in history so of course they will never happen again"???? Ohhhkay, I'm a bit lost with the logic of that statement.
I guess that's a typo and I take it you mean it has happened in history and may happen again. Well, that's the point isn't it? These things have happened before and, guess what, the world survived. The world adapted. People adapted, during times when there was no prepper culture at all (not that cans of beans and ammo is going to help you if a nuclear weapon is detonated over your heads).
Remember I said prepping is good, but don't be preoccupied with it. With some doomsday scenario, with a fight for survival. A sentiment shared by a previous poster.
He was being sarcastic. Things never change, except when they do. Just to reiterate, this is what we are facing today:
- A viral epidemic that has killed 90,000 Americans in 2 months.
- 39 million people who have applied for unemployment benefits
- An economy that is in shambles
- A Federal Reserve that has pumped $6.5 trillion in interest-free loans into the economy to keep the stock market from crashing
- A president who has steadfastly refused to take charge of a national testing program
- A "Made In America" test that returns at least 20% false negatives.
- A CDC run by political appointees instead of experts
- Armed protesters storming state capitals at the urging of the president
- Oblivious party animals hitting beaches and bars to spread a virus that is already endemic in the whole population. The first wave was triggered by a few dozen infectious individuals. The next wave will be triggered by tens of thousands.
It doesn't take much imagination to realize that things could get much, much worse than they are now. They probably will get much worse. Do you think the supply chain is intact? We're only getting our toes wet in the tidal wave so far. This has only been going on for a couple months. Wait until hurricanes and floods force millions into temporary shelters. See what happens to the economy when 20 or 30 million people can't afford to buy Christmas presents.
Nations have collapsed before. The USSR collapsed only 35 years ago. Remember the back slapping and the congratulations on having a superior system? We don't have that system any more. The Greatest Generation died out, and the Me Generation took over. We slid from, "Whatever it takes," to "What can I take?" Nobody in power is going to put themselves out to rescue our nation, they're going to take the money and run. I hope you enjoy the ride.
He was being sarcastic. Things never change, except when they do. Just to reiterate, this is what we are facing today:
- A viral epidemic that has killed 90,000 Americans in 2 months.
- 39 million people who have applied for unemployment benefits
- An economy that is in shambles
- A Federal Reserve that has pumped $6.5 trillion in interest-free loans into the economy to keep the stock market from crashing
- A president who has steadfastly refused to take charge of a national testing program
- A "Made In America" test that returns at least 20% false negatives.
- A CDC run by political appointees instead of experts
- Armed protesters storming state capitals at the urging of the president
- Oblivious party animals hitting beaches and bars to spread a virus that is already endemic in the whole population. The first wave was triggered by a few dozen infectious individuals. The next wave will be triggered by tens of thousands.
It doesn't take much imagination to realize that things could get much, much worse than they are now. They probably will get much worse. Do you think the supply chain is intact? We're only getting our toes wet in the tidal wave so far. This has only been going on for a couple months. Wait until hurricanes and floods force millions into temporary shelters. See what happens to the economy when 20 or 30 million people can't afford to buy Christmas presents.
Nations have collapsed before. The USSR collapsed only 35 years ago. Remember the back slapping and the congratulations on having a superior system? We don't have that system any more. The Greatest Generation died out, and the Me Generation took over. We slid from, "Whatever it takes," to "What can I take?" Nobody in power is going to put themselves out to rescue our nation, they're going to take the money and run. I hope you enjoy the ride.
Well then, we are back to square one - you are still prepping and predicting the "big one", as you guys have been doing since this forum started. I can take any number of threads in the past, going back to ten years or since this forum started, slightly reword it, and repeat it here.
The economy is bad, no doubt, mass unemployment and getting the economy going again is my concern. But again, stop with the doom and gloom. The country is not collapsing anytime soon.
I think another name for it is "panic porn".
"How many were financially prepared?" I could sit here and try to convince everyone I had seriously planned this out and positioned myself well. When the truth is I diversified out of laziness. About 5 years ago, I took my retirement and put it in a 2023 Fund, so the investments are conservative (for anyone unaware, the fund flees to safety with 2023 as my retirement date). I didn't earn as much had I been invested in DOW startups like Uber or Alamo Drafthouse, or in airlines or Disney - good thing, too. My fund is invested in precious metals and AAA bonds. Low risk, lower returns and losses. Laziness, because I parked it and forgot about it. I actually felt guilty that I was not more aggressive. The rest of my assets are liquid, about 2 to 3 years living expenses if I am careful. But laziness, because the CFP required more paperwork than I wanted to do, so it sits there, lol. I am still working, pulling a solid income, knowing I would go batsh!t crazy sitting at home all day without grown up responsibilities. But my hours are my own (sales). The harder I work, the more I earn.
The biggest financial lesson I learned over the years is having cash on hand. Everyone is different on how much, with much of my stash broken up in smaller bills than $50s and $100s. Kind of stuck if you need to pay $50 for a $10 object you just have to have.
Again, if I could keep a straight face, I would appear pretty wise. But it's more like dumb luck.
There you go, you are on the right path. More preppers have to get out of this forum and start posting in the economic forum if they truly want to prep. Yeah it's not as sexy as debating the proper type of survival rifle to keep, but if this crises told us anything, it's more important. As for me, I had a feeling the bull market would be ending last year and shifted my funds into less risky areas - some municipals, more bonds. Also have savings and a few CD's (since saving rates are so crappy) for quick liquidation needs.
Best prepper advice - get a financial adviser.
He was being sarcastic. Things never change, except when they do. Just to reiterate, this is what we are facing today:
- A viral epidemic that has killed 90,000 Americans in 2 months.
- 39 million people who have applied for unemployment benefits
- An economy that is in shambles
- A Federal Reserve that has pumped $6.5 trillion in interest-free loans into the economy to keep the stock market from crashing
- A president who has steadfastly refused to take charge of a national testing program
- A "Made In America" test that returns at least 20% false negatives.
- A CDC run by political appointees instead of experts
- Armed protesters storming state capitals at the urging of the president
- Oblivious party animals hitting beaches and bars to spread a virus that is already endemic in the whole population. The first wave was triggered by a few dozen infectious individuals. The next wave will be triggered by tens of thousands.
It doesn't take much imagination to realize that things could get much, much worse than they are now. They probably will get much worse. Do you think the supply chain is intact? We're only getting our toes wet in the tidal wave so far. This has only been going on for a couple months. Wait until hurricanes and floods force millions into temporary shelters. See what happens to the economy when 20 or 30 million people can't afford to buy Christmas presents.
Nations have collapsed before. The USSR collapsed only 35 years ago. Remember the back slapping and the congratulations on having a superior system? We don't have that system any more. The Greatest Generation died out, and the Me Generation took over. We slid from, "Whatever it takes," to "What can I take?" Nobody in power is going to put themselves out to rescue our nation, they're going to take the money and run. I hope you enjoy the ride.
I can't rep you a 2nd time without spreading the love first.
The happenings in the red font will tell us if our twin crystal balls should be listened to more closely or if we need to toss them in the garden for lawn art. We won't need to wait long for the results. There's nothing I would love more than to give mine the heave-ho.
The bold text is front and center in my mind. I worry I will look back at TODAY and wish we were here again. We have a very long way to go and I do wish we had better alternatives to lead us out of this mess. I am not trying to start a political debate, just stating we lack inspiration on both sides of the isle.
I can't rep you a 2nd time without spreading the love first.
The happenings in the red font will tell us if our twin crystal balls should be listened to more closely or if we need to toss them in the garden for lawn art. We won't need to wait long for the results. There's nothing I would love more than to give mine the heave-ho.
The bold text is front and center in my mind. I worry I will look back at TODAY and wish we were here again. We have a very long way to go and I do wish we had better alternatives to lead us out of this mess. I am not trying to start a political debate, just stating we lack inspiration on both sides of the isle.
We will need to wait a while. The first wave started in early January, but casualties didn't start to mount until the middle of March. Biological processes take a while.
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If this was pre-planned, then did New York & Brazil miss a meeting?
Did we go through the same pandemic?
