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Old 06-16-2020, 01:44 PM
 
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More of a hot plate than an oven -- to heat a can of soup, fry an egg or boil water for coffee if the power went out. I have almost no storage space so the smaller the better.

I have a gas range so normally cooking isn't affected in a power outtage but in case of sabotage or terror attack, I'm assuming electricity would be needed to keep gas flowing for days or weeks. Anyone know for sure?
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:16 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Yes you can light your gas stove top (not oven) with a match, bypassing the electronic ignition. My neighbor has gas range but we recently had a 12 hour blackout (windstorm) and she could not cook for her young family, not sure whether she was afraid to light her burners manually. Last year people across town were killed when their house blew up due to natural gas leak so she may have been worried about that.

https://www.nwnatural.com/ConnectToG...g%20controls.)

Second, camp stoves are not meant to be used indoors. You do not want to kill yourself making coffee because electric went out. Do you have a garage or outdoor deck you can set something up with proper ventilation?
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Old 06-16-2020, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Some of the small ultralight stoves using butane work well if properly vented such as by an open window.
There are a lot of models out there that put off very little in the way of exhaust, some are even rated to be used inside a tent, but I'd always have a window or vent cracked to make sure of good air flow.

I'd never use one of the larger white gas or kerosene stoves inside a closed building.
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Old 06-16-2020, 06:13 PM
 
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Silvertip is on the right track.

Let's start out with the BIG slap in the face to the fearful naysayers: You are ALREADY using gas - likely natural gas - a hydrocarbon mixture, primarily of methane - CH4. Alternatives are comparable, and warning of carbon monoxide poisoning is simply a ridiculous presupposition for someone already used to gas cooking and the protocols.

Butane is a good choice C4-H10

Ethanol is even better - CH3-CH2-OH

With combustion byproducts, there are two primary dangers - oxygen depletion, and as a result of that, carbon MONoxide generation. Whingers will also include nitrogen compounds, which are less lethal by far.

C= carbon molecule, H = hydrogen molecule, O = oxygen molecule.

You could burn hydrogen (it is possible) and have only water as a byproduct of combustion (the other is heat).

Both butane and ethanol only have minimal carbon compared to hydrogen (see the formulas) - meaning... the byproducts of combustion will be mostly water vapor and heat, with a little carbon dioxide.

Butane is a compressed gas and may be difficult to find. Ethanol, as any apprentice bootlegger knows, is easily created out of whatever carbohydrates you might have at hand - corn, sugar, rye, potatoes, rotten turnips, etc. You can also distill rotgut that is not fit for human consumption as a fuel.

Ethanol, as a liquid, is also a lot more easy to store than butane.

The downside of ethanol is that the combustion temperature is lower, and water takes longer to boil. The flame is also nearly invisible and not for use by the stupid.

You can burn denatured alcohol, sterno, etc, in any acohol stove, but when those run out, your burner will be happy with ethanol and possibly some sort of wick.
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Old 06-16-2020, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Some of the small ultralight stoves using butane work well if properly vented such as by an open window.
There are a lot of models out there that put off very little in the way of exhaust, some are even rated to be used inside a tent, but I'd always have a window or vent cracked to make sure of good air flow.

I'd never use one of the larger white gas or kerosene stoves inside a closed building.
I've never seen any ill effects from either kerosene or gasoline lighting, but do use unleaded gas or Coleman fuel. I often use a kkerosene heater in a chilly corner of the house. Butane, however, should not be used above 5000' because it produces CO in a low oxygen atmosphere
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Puna, Hawaii
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There are a variety of butane models on Amazon that are advertised as for being for "indoor" use. I got ours at the local CVS. They go on sale frequently for 1/2 off.

It is a myth that anything that creates fire causes carbon monoxide poisoning. That only happens when the combustion has insufficient access to oxygen. This is why everybody with an indoor kitchen gas range doesn't die. Most of these burners are no different.

Things like internal combustion engines, etc, should never be ran in a home. I had a 1973 Oldsmobile Omega that would set off our carbon monoxide alarm when I was running it outside the house, tailpipe pointed away.
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Old 06-28-2020, 11:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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My backup stove is a wood burner. ALOCS small power is my backpack stove and I usually use heavy duty al foil to cook on.
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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https://www.coleman.com/all-camp-kit...COL_2000020950

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Old 07-01-2020, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I picked up this gem from a guy selling it locally on craigslist-

https://www.elementoutfitters.com/Pa...e-p/pscs18.htm

This thing is TOUGH. Designed for guides in the backcountry- all welded aluminum and it pumps out some serious BTU's. Folds like a suitcase and has 4 burners. I love being able to place my long cast iron griddle over two burners, have a pot of coffee going on the third and still have an open burner for heating water.

We had an irrigation system installed around our house last week and the guys severed our propane line in several spots. I had to hand trench another run for new line (80' ft through shale- that was fun ). Our kitchen stove is propane so we were down about 5 days. That camp stove is the cats butt and we had no issues with indoor use.

I own many Coleman stoves- most vintage, I have several backpacking stoves that I've used a lot over the past 25 years but this Partner Stove is simply built like a tank. It's not even comparable, honestly.
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Old 08-29-2020, 11:05 PM
 
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What do you guys think of this? Can't beat the price or the small size. If the power grid gets taken down around the time of the election by the Leftists, I am hoping to manage for a month. Use a one quart pot to boil water for eggs, coffee, pasta and to heat soup. I live alone and would put this on top of my own stove or in my large stainless steel kitchen sink.


https://www.firesupplydepot.com/stan...ency-stove-236
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