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Old 10-13-2008, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Some place very cold
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It's simply common sense to be prepared for longterm emergencies. My ancestors had to do that every year to get through the long winters, so the instinct is deep in me.
Do you think we come from the same bloodlines, Woof?
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:29 PM
 
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Why is it that a warning only considered valid to give if the disaster actually happens?
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:29 PM
 
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My Parents are doom and gloomers. I had to move 500 miles away just to escape the constant draining mindset. And it is a TOTAL relief. I'm a medical professional and have seen people who really have a right to gloom and doom. As long as you can breathe, pee/poop, and get around on your own you bascially have got it good and have no reason to worry about crap that's out of your control anyway. Life is too short to gloom and doom. So people spend their money, you can always make more.
Sounds like you might be mixing D&G with clinical depression? dunno. But as a med person, I would guess you follow these are whole different, unrelated topics.

Many D&Gs are fairly dynamic and engaging. They just tend to be sort of "stuck" in the Worst Case model.

But sometimes I have thought that some D&Gs are depressed personalities looking to validate their emotional state.

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Worse case scenario is having to live out in the woods and catch your own food and make your own shelter. Still not the end of the world.
Sure, that is pretty much it exactly. The full D&Gs tend to live in a state of preparation for that.

OTOH, As far as a lack of quality of life in D&G land, I see many missed opportunities for the Best Case Scenarios -- sort of like a lack of balance thing.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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My problem with D&G in general is that it doesn't seem to exist as a traditional "hope for the best, plan for the worst" paradigm -- instead, some D&Gers seem to be advocates for D&G -- cheerleaders. In becoming proselytizers for the worst-case scenarios, they seem to perhaps subconsciously gain a personal stake in seeing those scenarios carried forth.

Maybe it's just morbid fascination. Whatever, the point is I think some D&Gers would be more honest if they just came out and said what they mean: they want to see things go down.

Just my opinion.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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The non-D&Gs also generally believe that we are in a down-cycle of an automatically self-correcting business cycle. And they are still out spending money and living as usual.

I would like to hear from other D&Gs.
Aye aye, sir - present! Another D&G here...but I call myself a "realist". I, too, spend lots of time educating myself, and one of the things I've read is the writing on the wall.

You are correct, in that the majority will not listen to you. In my case, I am into preparedness as well, so I get the double treatment.

But I look at it this way. If the majority are out spending money and living as usual, it means that I am ahead of them in line. I already have a 'heads up' mentality, while they do not (yet). I can go ahead with my preparations for whatever I feel we may be in for, while they will be the folks who are not prepared. It's not smugness. I prefer to share!
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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I believe we are headed into a first class depression. How bad will things get? Only time will tell.

However, it's more than that. The coming situation is going to weaken our country considerably. We have been running a trade deficit. And I don't know how much longer countries like China are going to want to stay on the dollar standard to pay for our wars and bailouts.

I think our days of being a world power are over.
No way man, the DOW is up 530 today, that means our problems are over, good times are here again! The fundamentals of our economy are strong.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I think our days of being a world power are over.
Good. Its about time that we concentrated on our country & citizens instead of being the world's policeman.

Another GI checking in!
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:45 PM
 
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But sometimes I have thought that some D&Gs are depressed personalities looking to validate their emotional state.
While I haven't thought that everyone who is D&G has this personality, I suspect the group has a fair share. I've also wondered if it's not just depressed personalities that are attracted to D&G, but also some with low-level anxiety or obsessive-compulsive personalities.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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And they are still out spending money and living as usual.
Let's envision an all-D&G society. EVERYone is a D&Ger. Things get a little rocky and EVERYone stops spending money immediately. What would that do?
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:47 PM
 
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I think some D&Gers would be more honest if they just came out and said what they mean: they want to see things go down.
I want to see things go down. I want the housing market to correct so that people can afford to buy a house at 2-3 times their income. I want the stock market to stay at a level where prices reflect earnings without having to juggle the books to show false prophets, (pun intended). I want to see interest rates go up to the point where you can put some money in a CD and have it keep up with inflation.

I don't want to see a never ending spiral of false prosperity make it impossible for the average person to buy a house or rent an apartment. I don't want to look at my retirement money as paper wealth that isn't backed by real wealth.

Is that too much to ask for?
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