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Old 08-05-2012, 03:33 AM
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Just recently whenever a large group of my friends and I go out to eat, a "recommended" tip has been added to the bill & tallied into the final price. Is this something new? I actually would usually give a little more more than that. Do they think a large group of women is too cheap or classless that we would not know enough to give a tip?
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:06 AM
 
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Just recently whenever a large group of my friends and I go out to eat, a "recommended" tip has been added to the bill & tallied into the final price. Is this something new? I actually would usually give a liitle more more than that. Do they think a large group of women is too cheap or classless that we would not know enough to give a tip?
Did you ask the restaurant? Perhaps this is their policy for everyone.

This used to be the policy in some European restaurants years ago, but I haven't seen it nor have I heard about it in years and years.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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Just recently whenever a large group of my friends and I go out to eat, a "recommended" tip has been added to the bill & tallied into the final price. Is this something new? I actually would usually give a liitle more more than that. Do they think a large group of women is too cheap or classless that we would not know enough to give a tip?
In a word, yes.

A large table can monopolize waitstaff time compared to individual diners, prepping all those orders to get served within a brief timespan can be tricky, and in some situations the dinner tab is being paid for by an organization or company, and the company may not accept the idea of a tip as valid.

If you had ever dined at Wolfies in south Florida, you would be laughing at yourself. Stealing all the sweet-n-low is just a minor part of what women do there.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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It's been SOP around here for years. The most common number 6 diners or more. Part of the reason may be that servers are taxed and have withholding taken out on estimated tips now, have been for 20 years at least.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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This is pretty common and in most states this has to be disclosed on the menu or where the order is being made (typically at the table).

Sometimes instead of "18% gratuity" it will say "18% service charge". It is important to understand that a service charge is not a tip or gratuity.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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This is pretty common and in most states this has to be disclosed on the menu or where the order is being made (typically at the table).

Sometimes instead of "18% gratuity" it will say "18% service charge". It is important to understand that a service charge is not a tip or gratuity.
Last year my husband and I ate at a local restaurant (just the two of us) and 18% was automatically added. This was not mentioned ANYWHERE on the menu, in the restaurant or by the server or owner. I was really shocked; we usually tip a full 20%, so they basically screwed themselves. I can see added a gratuity for large parties; that has been the standard practice for most everywhere for years. But for a couple? We haven't been back since.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: South Central Texas
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This is pretty common and in most states this has to be disclosed on the menu or where the order is being made (typically at the table).

Sometimes instead of "18% gratuity" it will say "18% service charge". It is important to understand that a service charge is not a tip or gratuity.
Yes, honesty is the best policy!
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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Last year my husband and I ate at a local restaurant (just the two of us) and 18% was automatically added. This was not mentioned ANYWHERE on the menu, in the restaurant or by the server or owner. I was really shocked; we usually tip a full 20%, so they basically screwed themselves. I can see added a gratuity for large parties; that has been the standard practice for most everywhere for years. But for a couple? We haven't been back since.
That's horrible. They should really let you know ahead of offering.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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Yes, honesty is the best policy!
I don't follow....
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: South Central Texas
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I don't follow....
Pretty simple! You said:

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It is important to understand that a service charge is not a tip or gratuity.
I said:

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Yes, honesty is the best policy!
Meaning it's good when the diner or whatever is truthful and upfront about this charge!
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