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Old 01-17-2020, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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a business does not have the right (nor am I granting them the right) to look through my private belongings because they want to unless they have a reasonable suspicion that I've stolen something.
You're wrong there. They do have that right. You are on their private property as an invitee. Walking in the door means you consent to their rules and that includes checking your purchases to make sure that you have paid for them.
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:38 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I didn’t really need another reason to avoid self check out lines, but here’s another one anyway!
You seem to believe the manned checkers stations don't have the same cameras.

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Old 01-17-2020, 12:20 PM
 
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You're wrong there. They do have that right. You are on their private property as an invitee. Walking in the door means you consent to their rules and that includes checking your purchases to make sure that you have paid for them.

It depends on your State, but those I'm aware of all have a similar form to CA's Code 40.95:

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(f) (1) A merchant may detain a person for a reasonable time for the purpose of conducting an investigation in a reasonable manner whenever the merchant has probable cause to believe the person to be detained is attempting to unlawfully take or has unlawfully taken merchandise from the merchant's premises.


The merchant must have a probable cause which in other States is translated to a reasonable suspicion. It is not reasonable for the merchant to consider every person walking on their property with bags having stolen something.

Lots of opinions on this online, both for an against the interpretation. When asked, I just tell the person nicely "No you may not." They always smile and let me pass.
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Old 01-17-2020, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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I was self checking out at Walmart and the machine said to wait for an associate because an item wasn't scanning correctly. The associate fixed it but while doing so, I noticed the screen played back my hands scanning the item.

I know you can't go anywhere nowadays without a camera recording you but seeing my hands zoomed in like that was a little creepy. It's a brave new world out there I guess.
Thanks for that. I plan to now scan and flip the bird every time I do...One day....one day.....
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:57 PM
 
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Im going to walmart tonight (wearing gloves of course) then I'm buying duct tape, rope, a flashlight, condoms/lube, a shovel, trash bags, bleach, the biggest knife they have, a couple of mops and 4-5 cans of air freshener. I'm going to jog for 45 minutes before I get there so I'm super sweaty/out of breath and I'll wear a hat with sunglasses even though its 11 pm!


Let's see if their technology figures out whats going on here!
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:24 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Well, it’s not, really. If self check outs actually ever functioned, then maybe I’d be more willing to use one. Why bother when I have to get somebody to come over anyway? People have a hard time believing that I have thus far had to have an employee come over 100% of the time; I therefore have not used one in years. Self check outs are one of the dumbest things I have ever encountered. Awful. These self check out aisles can go die now, I’d rather just go to a regular register with an actual person at it. Making the customer service you are supposed to have anyway feel like a bother is a real insult to paying customers and to people trying to earn a check by working there.
Takes too long. I too prefer to go through a cashier, but if that line has say, 12 people, while the self checkout only has 1... I'm going with the latter. After self-checkout, I look back, and only 3 or 4 people have gone through
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:28 PM
 
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Im going to walmart tonight (wearing gloves of course) then I'm buying duct tape, rope, a flashlight, condoms/lube, a shovel, trash bags, bleach, the biggest knife they have, a couple of mops and 4-5 cans of air freshener. I'm going to jog for 45 minutes before I get there so I'm super sweaty/out of breath and I'll wear a hat with sunglasses even though its 11 pm!


Let's see if their technology figures out whats going on here!
That you have too much time on your hands?
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:03 PM
 
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Im going to walmart tonight (wearing gloves of course) then I'm buying duct tape, rope, a flashlight, condoms/lube, a shovel, trash bags, bleach, the biggest knife they have, a couple of mops and 4-5 cans of air freshener. I'm going to jog for 45 minutes before I get there so I'm super sweaty/out of breath and I'll wear a hat with sunglasses even though its 11 pm!


Let's see if their technology figures out whats going on here!
#1 Do you have a criminal lawyer on retainer?
#2 Do you have an ACLU phone number in your contacts?

You could end up rich!
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Another reason why I get my groceries delivered and I avoid Wal mart.
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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I love all of the Wal Mart paranoia. Makes me chuckle.

I'll continue to go there to buy the few things that I always get from them.

If they want to film my head, my hands, or even my butt as I walk away, have at it!
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