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Old 01-26-2020, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Last week I was at Walmart and I grabbed about $70 worth of groceries. After scanning my articles and paying I started to go out. I had one 1 gallon bottle of Turkey Hill sweat tea that the post checkout woman immediately scanned. I did not have it on my bill. I thought that I had scanned the item; but it never registered. There is a chance I did not hear the beep because I am hard of hearing? But it amazed me that they zoomed right in on the tea and nothing else. So, I guess, this new technology would explain what happened? Anyway; I simply paid for the tea and then was allowed to leave. I will try to be more careful next time.

That said; several weeks ago I went into Lowes for a new shower component that controls hot/cold water mix. They are expensive; about $50 each. Two of the first three I looked at had been removed from the plastic and the old one had been inserted. I turned the two into management. So I can understand why these companies are trying new steps to stop this from happening. But Walmart's new technology would not have helped Lowes. I do not know what the answer to their problem will be?
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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Last week I was at Walmart and I grabbed about $70 worth of groceries. After scanning my articles and paying I started to go out. I had one 1 gallon bottle of Turkey Hill sweat tea that the post checkout woman immediately scanned. I did not have it on my bill. I thought that I had scanned the item; but it never registered. There is a chance I did not hear the beep because I am hard of hearing? But it amazed me that they zoomed right in on the tea and nothing else. So, I guess, this new technology would explain what happened? Anyway; I simply paid for the tea and then was allowed to leave. I will try to be more careful next time.

That said; several weeks ago I went into Lowes for a new shower component that controls hot/cold water mix. They are expensive; about $50 each. Two of the first three I looked at had been removed from the plastic and the old one had been inserted. I turned the two into management. So I can understand why these companies are trying new steps to stop this from happening. But Walmart's new technology would not have helped Lowes. I do not know what the answer to their problem will be?
I accidentally stole a small bag of cat treats from Walmart last week. It was in the basket part of the cart and I unloaded from in front of the cart, didn’t see it till I was putting bags in my car. Guess the technology hasn’t made it to my Walmart yet? I always assume they just don’t watch me that closely because I look non descriptive and non suspicious, IDK.
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Old 01-26-2020, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I accidentally stole a small bag of cat treats from Walmart last week. It was in the basket part of the cart and I unloaded from in front of the cart, didn’t see it till I was putting bags in my car. Guess the technology hasn’t made it to my Walmart yet? I always assume they just don’t watch me that closely because I look non descriptive and non suspicious, IDK.
It is only a matter of time. Change is inevitable.
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Old 01-26-2020, 11:06 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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To me, the moral of the thread is that we've become incredibly lax in how we view our own privacy, all for the sake of law and order and safety.
You say that like law and order and safety are mere nothings.
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Old 01-27-2020, 06:50 AM
 
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You say that like law and order and safety are mere nothings.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin

Years ago those cameras were monitored by people and the tapes recycled weekly. Today they are digitized, stored and transferred to buyers automatically, and fed to AI systems in the cloud for advanced analytics and tracking over extended periods of time. One of the largest marketing segments is AI for facial recognition in private industry.



Today's cameras and the data derived is a different beast.



The US is way behind in it's data privacy laws. What was at one time a fundamental right is eroding at an exponential rate. Sadly, any chance of real protections may be lost due to the influence of business lobby in our politics. That's not a right or left thing, that's a blanket our politicians are for sale thing. Especially when the American people are willing to sell their privacy for a free email account. Beware the mock legislation with huge loopholes the average person doesn't understand, but trumpeted as progress by the media who's job it is to be news entertainment with viewer analytics that are powered by the very tracking systems that these types of laws are supposed to protect you from.



If the product is free.... you're the product.


This isn't tin foil hat drama... it's just business in America today.
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:08 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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It's still really easy to steal at the self check
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:09 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I accidentally stole a small bag of cat treats from Walmart last week. It was in the basket part of the cart and I unloaded from in front of the cart, didn’t see it till I was putting bags in my car. Guess the technology hasn’t made it to my Walmart yet? I always assume they just don’t watch me that closely because I look non descriptive and non suspicious, IDK.
Like I said... Really easy to steal...
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Old 01-29-2020, 08:34 AM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Like I said... Really easy to steal...
No kidding. I had to return an item to Walmart a couple weeks ago and usually I could simply walk in and go directly to the return counter with no problem. Now, we have to stop inside and let the person that scans your purchases as you leave run another scan of your item before you can head over to the return section of the store.

When I asked them why, I was told that thieves are stealing from the store with receipts they've found in the parking lot (or anywhere else they can), picking up the item inside the store that matches the receipt and taking it back to the return counter for money back. They pass off the stolen receipt as theirs and ask for money back on the bogus purchase.

I don't know how long this has been going on but long enough that purchase information isn't matching up
with inventory. It's nuts the length these people will go to steal now. I guess plain old shoplifting is out of style.
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Old 01-29-2020, 10:53 AM
 
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I never used them self check outers before and never will.
LOL!!! I have to use self checkouts every time I go to one of the stores, the cashiers get crabby if I get into their line and say "Go to self checkout".

Whatever. My only issue with self checkout is if they try to have me scan an item twice which would charge me twice for an item "Unexpected item". I'm not falling for that.
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Old 01-29-2020, 10:54 AM
 
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No kidding. I had to return an item to Walmart a couple weeks ago and usually I could simply walk in and go directly to the return counter with no problem. Now, we have to stop inside and let the person that scans your purchases as you leave run another scan of your item before you can head over to the return section of the store.

When I asked them why, I was told that thieves are stealing from the store with receipts they've found in the parking lot (or anywhere else they can), picking up the item inside the store that matches the receipt and taking it back to the return counter for money back. They pass off the stolen receipt as theirs and ask for money back on the bogus purchase.

I don't know how long this has been going on but long enough that purchase information isn't matching up
with inventory. It's nuts the length these people will go to steal now. I guess plain old shoplifting is out of style.
Yep. Another thing they do is try to have someone else return an item for them.
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