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Old 04-26-2021, 12:27 PM
 
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The only "sweet" I really eat is Greek Yogurt and fruits. I buy it plain and sweeten it myself. However, my cart is always filled to the top.

My typical list includes:

broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, tomatoes, grape tomatoes, oranges, apples, bananas, raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, avocadoes, sweet potatoes, spinach, asparagus, lettuce, onions, garlic, mushrooms, pineapple, red peppers, steel cut oats, coffee, Greek Yogurt, beans, quinoa, olives, walnuts, almonds, chia seeds, chicken, steak, grass-fed ground meat, salmon, tuna steak, shrimp, milk, eggs

We don't eat out very often, so if you do 5 servings of fruits and vegetables per day for 3 people over 7 days, that's 105 servings of fruits/vegetables in a week. That's the minimum recommendation. We might eat 2-3 servings of meat per person per day, which comes out to 42-63 servings of meat in a week.

My family will sometimes have little snacks, so we do pick up the occasional potato chips or crackers on top of the regular shopping list. If you make your meals from scratch on a daily basis, it's a lot of food even without any dessert items.
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:32 PM
 
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I almost punched the person who said to me that sugar feeds cancer after he died like it was my fault that I didn’t stop him from eating all the cookies. Come to think of it I almost punched a person who said if he went on the keto diet his brain tumor would go away. Some people just need to keep their mouths shut.
Well that was rude but probably true.

I think that is why you bring it up.

My uncle died imho from gangrene. I always knew he had a serious issue when we had to buy cookies only when he would come over. He just couldn't give the cookies up, even knowing he was diabetic, even knowing he had gangrene and it was going to kill him... and it did. There was really nothing anyone could do or say.. nothing.
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:34 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Being diabetic, you train yourself to not eat those types of foods. And the rest of the processed food world, well, I hate onions and onions hate me. I’m not going to say I’m allergic because allergies to me mean really bad effects and I don’t have really bad effects, but I don’t have a pleasant few days. So that leaves out most frozen food that you can think of.

So basically my fast food is pan frying a couple of shrimp, putting it over salad, slicing up a tomato, and may a little cucumber. It is fast. But it’s also healthy. And when I’m craving sweets, it’s always sweet and chocolate. And I cannot have that stuff in the house. I will make myself a small hot cocoa. And I use old-fashioned unsweetened cocoa powder so I can regulate the sugar, add a little pinch of salt, and add a couple of drops of vanilla. It’s not perfectly healthy but it is better than cookies and candy and that kind of thing.

My late husband especially at the end of his life was a huge huge cookie monster. He has lost about 60 pounds before his diagnosis, and after diagnosis with the Decadron and the operation he started putting it back on. And eating. We’d get a couple of bags of cookies, and two days later they were gone and we had to go get more because he needed cookies. And frankly, at that point whatever he wanted, he was going to get.

I almost punched the person who said to me that sugar feeds cancer after he died like it was my fault that I didn’t stop him from eating all the cookies. Come to think of it I almost punched a person who said if he went on the keto diet his brain tumor would go away. Some people just need to keep their mouths shut.
If you're diabetic. Almost 99% of fruits with fructose is a big no. Eating avocados, coconuts, and eating healthy greens especially the dark leafy greens will reverse type 2.

As for frying the most lethal stuff from frying foods is the omega 6 oils from seeds. Stick to omega 3 oils or pure sat fats like lard or bacon. Those are less harmful to the arteries and heart than seed oils like canola, sunflower, safflower, and corn they are so highly inflammatory.

For a healthy cookie, use raw nuts, monkfruit sugar, almond flour, and a no bake recipe.
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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I shop w/ a list and that's it. I can't imagine free range shopping.
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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There are like zillion alternative names to try to hide fact there is sugar added. Some ingredient labels have several listed, so if you add them all up it may well be the MAIN INGREDIENT.
I agree. People should read the nutrition labels.
Look for dextrose, glucose, levulose, maltose, lactose, sucrose, galactose, high fructose corn syrup (HFCS),... Here is a much longer list (about 56 names for sugar)
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...ames-for-sugar

Some of you might get surprised but lots of savory foods contain sugar: pasta sauce, bbq sauce, frozen meals, canned soups, salad dressings, bread, pizza, syrups, beer, processed meat, frozen meals, veggie burgers, sushi, instant gravy, INFANT FORMULA!
Some poor babies are from day one getting addicted to sugar.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/34...4a1bb42bec.jpg

Also vitamin water, fruit juice, granola bars, oatmeal, protein powder...

And especially some restaurant food:
https://www.eatthis.com/sugar-in-restaurant-food/
https://www.eatthis.com/10-meals-mor...-than-dessert/

https://sugarscience.ucsf.edu/hidden.../#.YIcHLqhOkzR

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Old 04-26-2021, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Kanada ....(*V*)....
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I shop w/ a list and that's it. I can't imagine free range shopping.
I always make a weekly grocery list and stick with it.If I want something sweet I bake!
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:53 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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I shop w/ a list and that's it. I can't imagine free range shopping.
Yep. Never go into a grocery store without a list.

I'll freely admit I'm no nutritional saint. I do indulge in less-than-perfect food, but I also know moderation is realistic and sustainable. So far, I am not at risk of diabetes or heart disease. Following a grocery list helps. Besides, I live a few miles outside town. Nothing worse on a cold winter day than forgetting to bring home the one item I just donned socks, shoes, coat, hat, burned fossil fuel, braved icy roads, traffic and parking lots to get!

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Old 04-26-2021, 12:54 PM
 
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If you're diabetic. Almost 99% of fruits with fructose is a big no. Eating avocados, coconuts, and eating healthy greens especially the dark leafy greens will reverse type 2.

As for frying the most lethal stuff from frying foods is the omega 6 oils from seeds. Stick to omega 3 oils or pure sat fats like lard or bacon. Those are less harmful to the arteries and heart than seed oils like canola, sunflower, safflower, and corn they are so highly inflammatory.

For a healthy cookie, use raw nuts, monkfruit sugar, almond flour, and a no bake recipe.
I eat to my meter. I know what foods cause me issues, bananas are fine.

And I do not fry fry. I pan fry which is completely different. Using a nonstick pan. No oil.

That cookie sounds terrible. And I’d still eat too many, so no cookies in the house.
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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If you're diabetic. Almost 99% of fruits with fructose is a big no. Eating avocados, coconuts, and eating healthy greens especially the dark leafy greens will reverse type 2.

As for frying the most lethal stuff from frying foods is the omega 6 oils from seeds. Stick to omega 3 oils or pure sat fats like lard or bacon. Those are less harmful to the arteries and heart than seed oils like canola, sunflower, safflower, and corn they are so highly inflammatory.

For a healthy cookie, use raw nuts, monkfruit sugar, almond flour, and a no bake recipe.
I am diabetic, only eat fresh produce. I will say for ME, fruit like berries and peaches are fine, even at my weakest as I was transitioning off insulin, those were fine. Avacados too. Big difference in the sweet dessert apples and cooking apple like Granny Smith. I could eat half Granny Smith chopped into a salad (with peeling) and no effect. Couldnt touch the super sweet apples.

Grapes and bananas were pure poison. Some diabetics have no problem with raw tomato, I did, they were as bad as grapes and bananas. Other fruits somewhere in between. What is a killer is to eat processed fruits like fruit juice where you are in effect drinking the sugar from several fruit with none of the fiber.

So far as fruit goes, if you are diabetic, you need to be careful, but all fruit are not created equal, some will zoom your blood sugar, some not, and depends if raw or processed and lot other things. You really need to use the blood glucose monitor you were issued as a new diabetic and figure out on your own how different foods affect you.

As to gaining weight, honest eating fresh fruit with the pulp and skin will not likely be a serious concern. You just wont eat enough to affect you. Not to mention ITS EXPENSIVE and fruit available commercially not super tasty, its usually picked green and artificially ripened so mostly sweet, none of more subtle flavors it would have tree ripened..

Oh and good luck finding lard that hasnt been hydrogenated so its shelf stable. You can mail order it but its EXPENSIVE. Honest any cold pressed veggie oil is going to be better for you than any hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oil. Also remember lot of seed oil comes from "industrial" seed crops, not traditional varieties. Industrial grains/seeds arent grown for taste or nutrition, they are grown for highest production qualities and PROFIT. Margarine and Crisco is not your friend. Finding truth in labeling is harder. Long time USA has been the dumping ground for stale, chemically extracted, and adulterated olive oil and honey and maple syrup. Taste most sold in grocery store and its nasty, nothing like real cold pressed oil. Or real honey or maple syrup. Some of high priced stuff not so great either. Our govt doesnt test for truth in labeling only that it isnt lethal.
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Old 04-26-2021, 01:08 PM
 
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I am a chocoholic, so I try to avoid the chocolate aisle. Yes, I know dark is (kind of) healthy, but prefer milk which has loads of sugar. So I try not to buy it too often. Husband is a carb addict, he loves bread, pastries, cookies, potato chips, etc. I try to bake a couple times a month and freeze most of it so I can talk him out of grocery store baked goods. I do buy yogurt, but plain unsweetened and we add our own fruit to it. Anyway, my point is, I have found the only way to avoid consuming the "bad stuff" is by not buying it in the first place. Once it's in the house, it will be eaten.
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