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Old 02-24-2014, 04:28 AM
 
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Well, if you're going to make a claim, at least back it up. That's all I'm asking. I want to read the same thing that you read, and I want to study the source, as well.
You go on a rant, providing only a single, inaccurate 3 year old article to support your claim and then complain because I don't provide a source

http://casaa.org/uploads/Are_Electro...ettes_Safe.pdf
National Vapers Club - Meeting Place for lovers of e-cigarettes, personal vaporizers and all things "fog" producing!
The safety of propylene glycol (PG) when inhaled through an electronic cigarette. Studies on the effect of the inhalation of propylene glycol through a personal vaporizer.

Pay special attention to the 3rd paragraph of the first link.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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News reports of some e-cigarettes exploding in mouths causing severe damage and a few cases of house and cars burned down from exploding e-cigarettes.
You can google the many stories.
In that respect.....cell phones are just as dangerous.

Seen At 11: Exploding Cell Phones Pose A Serious Danger « CBS New York

Edit: Ooops, just noticed NHDave's post. Sorry for the repeat.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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News reports of some e-cigarettes exploding in mouths causing severe damage and a few cases of house and cars burned down from exploding e-cigarettes.
You can google the many stories.
What do you think you'll find if you Google house fires and/or fatalities in house fires where a smoldering cigarette was the cause?


■ Smoking is the leading cause of fatal residential building fires (19 percent).
http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/p...tics/v11i2.pdf
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Hmmm. From what I've read, you're still smoking chemicals in e-cigs.

Diethylene Glycol, an anti-freeze component.

Tetramethylpyrazine. Prolonged exposure can result in brain damage in human beings.
The vast majority of juices on the market are made from propylene glycol (food grade), vegetable glycerin (food grade) and flavorings (food grade). That's it. Some will thin out the juice with a little water or grain alcohol. The flavorings are typically extracts diluted in propylene glycol.

What brands have you seen with the ingredients in your post above, or where did you get that information?
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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A rant? Why are you so sensitive about e-cigarettes? I was asking a legitimate question, and you think it's a rant? That's awfully telling about just how sure you are about their safety.

Interesting.

Not a single one of those links is worthwhile. Of course the vaping links are going to promote e-cigarettes. Casaa...hmmm:

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CASAA formed in 2009 by members of an online forum as an advocacy group to raise awareness and protect our right to access reduced harm alternatives.
People from a forum...and I'm supposed to take that as scientific evidence?
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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The vast majority of juices on the market are made from propylene glycol (food grade), vegetable glycerin (food grade) and flavorings (food grade). That's it. Some will thin out the juice with a little water or grain alcohol. The flavorings are typically extracts diluted in propylene glycol.

What brands have you seen with the ingredients in your post above, or where did you get that information?
I provided a link. Did you not see it?

Here's another one:

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm225210.htm

http://www.loyolamedicine.org/newswi...la-doctor-says

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Old 02-25-2014, 07:02 AM
 
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People from a forum...and I'm supposed to take that as scientific evidence?
And we're supposed to take articles from you with false information as scientific evidence? "People from a forum"... couldn't have said it better myself
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Calm down. It looked like the link went with what was under it, not above it.

Doesn't change the fact that you (and your link) are wrong.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...a traveling man.
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What do you think you'll find if you Google house fires and/or fatalities in house fires where a smoldering cigarette was the cause?
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In that respect.....cell phones are just as dangerous.
And your points are? The e-cigarette report was just a reminder that there is a chance of a e-cigarette blowing up in your mouth. It's a warning to smokers to beware. Geeze is a federal case needed.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:17 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Will you please point out where you found that?
I own a company that makes this stuff.

All that's in the juice is propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine, flavor (in a PG carrier, sometimes with ethyl alcohol), and nicotine (usually in a PG carrier).

That's all.

I make it by the gallon. In fact I made 5 gallons of it today. Those are the only four ingredients in it. No grain alcohol, no water, no caffeine, no THC, no food coloring. At least not in MY juice. No flavor extracts from the baking aisle in the supermarket either; those are not designed for e-cigs. The flavors I use are specifically designed to go into e-cigs. I refuse to use any flavoring that isn't. I also refuse to use any flavoring containing diacetyl, acetoin, or acetyl propionyl.
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