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Old 08-09-2010, 02:26 AM
 
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It is unfair to compare the two. SC doesn't have NOLA; it wasn't devistated by the twins Rita and Katrina before the economy tanked; it isn't impacted by the recent BP oil spill; it doesn't have Nacitoches; it doesn't have a French/Spanish/Acadian history; it doesn't have the Louisiana Trace, the many muscians like Pete Fountain, a Burbon Street.*a French Quarter, Louisiana Jazz and Cajun musicians (Winton Marsales) and I doubt that it has the types of festivals LA does. G'ville has some famous musicians, too. I am most familiar with Hovie's southern Gospel and Keith conducting the Boston Pops.

MSA has no value except as a labor statistics for bean counters. You cannot compare apples and oranges ie 4-5 cities to two. Let's not try.

The 2010 G'ville population is about 60,000. It has had a population growth of 6.12% in 10 years. Shreveport pop is about 200,000, or over 3x larger than G'villet. The median price range for a Shreveport house is about $40K less than the same house in G'ville plus LA has no real estate tax - unless that change after the evil twins visited. .

I guarantee SC does not have a Times-Picayune paper; no one does. I don't know if it has anything like the Shreveport SB Magazine. Plus SC culture is entirely different than LA culture. The racial make-up is different, too. G'Ville is 60/30 favoring white, while Shreveport is 51/42 favoring black residents.

In short it is very difficut to compare LA to any other state in America.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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MSA/CMSA Has no value? I have to disagree with the above posting. MSA/CMSA/UA are really the only way to compare the size of two or more cities, unless the cities have nearly identical city limits and sq. mi. This is not common and city populations only contain those people residing within city limits. The majority of cities limits vary widely (Greenville's city limits are about 26 sq. mi. and Shreveport's are about 103 sq.mi.), therefore, the only way to fairly compare two cities are to use MSA,CMSA or Urban Area population figures...2009 est. SBC (MSA) 391,516 (CMSA) 432,060 (UA) 275,213 all of which are smaller than Gville (MSA, not including the Spartanburg or Anderson MSA) 639,917 GSP (CMSA) 1,264,930 (UA) 302,194...furthermore GSP's airport is much larger than SBC's, GSP has rail service that doesn't require a bus connection...I'm a fan of both places (with a slight lean towards Shreveport because I like it's smaller town feel), but as the above poster mentioned this is comparing apples to oranges. GSP is significantly larger then SBC, therefore there will be more amenities, etc. in the area
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:16 PM
 
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Yeah, GSP and Shv are two entirely different places; the only common denominator is that they are both in the South. I have travelled through GSP and liked it very much. Didn't realize it was that big; however the cities are in the "thick of it all". By that I mean they are surrounded by many populous metros such as Charlotte, Columbia, Augusta, Atlanta of course, Knoxville, etc. You know what I mean, It's not exactly out in the middle of nowhere. Shv on the other hand is surrounded by rural areas and hundreds of miles must be driven before one reaches a sizeable city. However we could be a center spoke for Little Rock, Dallas, Houston, NewOrleans, Baton Rouge, Jackson and Memphis. I think these cities are farther from each other than the ones surrounding Greenville-Spartanburg. Just my guess.
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Old 08-21-2010, 10:29 PM
 
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The MSA, or Metropolitan Statistical Area, is a US Labor Bureau stastical acronym that indicates where, and how many residents from surrounding parishes/counties shop and work in a specific target anchor. If 'A' is the anchor city and enough folks from 'B' parish/county shop and work at 'A' then they are included in the MSA, mMSA, etc. The folks who live in 'B' parish/County do not pay county or real estate taxes in "A". The MSA is for stistical numbers that track populatopn growth and city decline as American's move from City A to City B, from Urban to Rural, rural flight to city, etc.. It is folly to compare cities based on federal statistics.

The bigger question is what is attracting California companies like Apple and Trader Joe's to G'ville? These companies do not customarily move into areas with less than 1M population. G'ville may well have courted these companies for some time and given them big tax breaks that made the decison to move a very sweet deal.

Here is food for thought: There is NO Trader Joe's in Texas or Louisiana - but you can find 3 around Atlanta.

Shreveport is a beautiful city. What can it offer new buainess and what is the city doing to court it? What kind of transportation services does S'vport offer? What about medical? Has the Shriner's Hosptial. Easter Seals or St.Jude reserach been courted? Do you have any Levl I tertiary care hospitals? Shreveport has old money; is it invested in the city? Where is your nightlife? Do you have walkable areas? Do you have an efficient bus system? What fuels the city economy and what percentage?

I like Shreveport and I like Louisiana, but in today's economy your city father's have to think out side the box to grow the city and prosper. Festivals, tourists and casino money is not enough. Shreveport could be the NW hub city for ???? Legal, medical, business, finance???

What did G'ville do to draw new business that Shreveport did not?
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Louisiana - someday Maine
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It is unfair to compare the two. SC doesn't have NOLA; it wasn't devistated by the twins Rita and Katrina before the economy tanked; it isn't impacted by the recent BP oil spill; it doesn't have Nacitoches; it doesn't have a French/Spanish/Acadian history; it doesn't have the Louisiana Trace, the many muscians like Pete Fountain, a Burbon Street.*a French Quarter, Louisiana Jazz and Cajun musicians (Winton Marsales) and I doubt that it has the types of festivals LA does. G'ville has some famous musicians, too. I am most familiar with Hovie's southern Gospel and Keith conducting the Boston Pops.

MSA has no value except as a labor statistics for bean counters. You cannot compare apples and oranges ie 4-5 cities to two. Let's not try.

The 2010 G'ville population is about 60,000. It has had a population growth of 6.12% in 10 years. Shreveport pop is about 200,000, or over 3x larger than G'villet. The median price range for a Shreveport house is about $40K less than the same house in G'ville plus LA has no real estate tax - unless that change after the evil twins visited. .

I guarantee SC does not have a Times-Picayune paper; no one does. I don't know if it has anything like the Shreveport SB Magazine. Plus SC culture is entirely different than LA culture. The racial make-up is different, too. G'Ville is 60/30 favoring white, while Shreveport is 51/42 favoring black residents.

In short it is very difficut to compare LA to any other state in America.
In my opinion, these comments are not appropriate for a moderator.
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Old 09-26-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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In my opinion, these comments are not appropriate for a moderator.
Why not?
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