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Soccer has been just on the verge of breaking out and becoming a major sport in the United States for forty years. I don't see any reason to think it's any more likely to happen this year than any one of the other last forty years. Even having women players stripping off their jerseys didn't do it.
I will say this though: if they bring those obnoxious horns back from South Africa I will never forgive them for it.
1 - Soccer is already a major sport in this country.
2 - The horns are already here and have been here for a long time. I have one sitting in my computer room.
1. theres a pretty well documented relatinship between Celtic and their Irish fans
2. many UK stadiums are centrally located! arsenal, newcastle, liverpool, chelsea, everton spring immediately to mind. I agree that with newer stadiums it can be hard to find centrally located and available land to build on, but still think most UK stadiums are central
1. The best supported teams in Ireland are Manchester Utd and Liverpool, not Celtic.
2. The majority of UK soccer stadia are "in-town".
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There are many factors that go into the support a club gets. Rangers in Scotland is supported by Unionists and Protestants. Celtic is supported by Irish immigrants and Catholics. In England, this is mirrored in Liverpool with the Merseyside Derby between Liverpool and Everton, though on a much friendlier scale. In London, the support a club gets is determined by neighborhood and clubs get a reputation for the social class and ethnicity that supports it. Chelsea was well known as a working class club until the new ownership. Spurs is known as the ethnically Jewish club as it is located in an area with a high Jewish population. Rivalries cut across family and neighborhood lines such as Birmingham, Aston Villa and West Brom. London has, I think, 14 league clubs in 4 divisions. Leyton Orient or Barnet is the smallest. The local nature of the clubs means there is a lot of passion for the clubs and when clubs play other clubs there are political and economic tensions that make the rivalries personal. Many Yorkshire and Lancashire clubs such as Blackburn and Burnley have rivalries because some scabbed during the coal strikes in the 1980s. In Spain, Real Madrid was the club of the fascists while Barcelona was the socialist club. Similarly in France, Marseille is a leftist club and Paris-SG is a right wing club. Italy has Lazio, which is fasicst, and Inter Milan and AC Milan that are divided because AC Milan refused to use non-Italians. Mexico has a club called Chivas that refuses to use non-Mexicans and has its arch-rival Club America that is well known for bringing in foreign players.
That sounds very different from American pro sports but very similar to American college sports. I think the two factors for the popularity of college teams are the cultural differences btw their fans vs other teams and the local nature of them.
It's hard to stereotype fans of certain NBA teams other than to say they are all bandwagon jumpers. It's also hard for me to loyally follow an NBA team when the fanbases are so fair weather. By comparison most college teams have very stereotypical fanbases that attract certain groups. Here in Kentucky the Wildcat fans tend to be either high income or low income (either driving a Lexus or living in a trailer park ) who are White protestants while Cardinal fans tend to be middle class factory workers who are Catholic or African American.
First of all congrats... you did good in this World Cup.
To be honest I can't understand how can you people not get into football anyway... I mean is baseball or rugby more interesting than football?
Anyway on topic now... I don't think it's some kind of a revolution but I have to admit that it grows significantly year by year. Especially after this world cup maybe you'll see some more stuff going on. I just think that you need to start building good facilities and start signing european/south american players. (not commercial dudes like David Beckham though)
PS: still can't understand why do you call it soccer? While the rest of the world agrees that the actual name of this sport is football as it's how the inventors named it. Instead you're calling football the bad copy of english rugby
First of all congrats... you did good in this World Cup.
To be honest I can't understand how can you people not get into football anyway... I mean is baseball or rugby more interesting than football?
Anyway on topic now... I don't think it's some kind of a revolution but I have to admit that it grows significantly year by year. Especially after this world cup maybe you'll see some more stuff going on. I just think that you need to start building good facilities and start signing european/south american players. (not commercial dudes like David Beckham though)
PS: still can't understand why do you call it soccer? While the rest of the world agrees that the actual name of this sport is football as it's how the inventors named it. Instead you're calling football the bad copy of english rugby
Soccer/Association football is as interesting as rugby or baseball. It all depends on what you grew up with/what you personally enjoy.
And we call it soccer because there is another code of football, American football, which is more popular here. It is the same reason why the Irish call association football soccer (Gaelic football is their main football) and why Australians call association football soccer (their main football is either Australian rules football or rugby league football, depending on where in Australia you are.)
Oh, and American football is a great sport.
And thanks for the congratulations. I would have liked to have seen us go further, but hey, there's always the next World Cup!
First of all congrats... you did good in this World Cup.
To be honest I can't understand how can you people not get into football anyway... I mean is baseball or rugby more interesting than football?
Anyway on topic now... I don't think it's some kind of a revolution but I have to admit that it grows significantly year by year. Especially after this world cup maybe you'll see some more stuff going on. I just think that you need to start building good facilities and start signing european/south american players. (not commercial dudes like David Beckham though)
PS: still can't understand why do you call it soccer? While the rest of the world agrees that the actual name of this sport is football as it's how the inventors named it. Instead you're calling football the bad copy of english rugby
It's football. The world knows it as football. It's played using feet, which is why it's called football.
Anyone calling it "soccer" is a complete use your own swear-filter-starred expletive here.
USA lost to Ghana.
England vs. Germany....
Well what do you think eh?
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