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I don’t guess I’ll start a new thread. The Census Bureau’s 2021 metro population estimates came out yesterday.
Hmmm let's see compared to the April 1st Census data
Greenville went from 525,534 to 533,834; adding 8.3k people
Richland went from 416,147 to 418,307; adding 2,160 people
Charleston went from 408,235 to 413,024; adding 4,789 people
Horry went from 351,029 to 365,579; adding 14,550 people
Spartanburg went from 327,997 to 335,864; adding 7,867 people
Lexington went from 293,991 to 300,137; adding 6,146 people
York went from 282,090 to 288,595; adding 6,505 people
Berkeley went from 229,861 to 236,701; adding 6,840 people
Anderson went from 203,718 to 206,908; adding 3,190 people
Aiken went from 168,808 to 170,776; adding 1,968 people
South Carolina at large has added 72k~ since the census in April
With regards to significant growth point, aside from Lexington getting to 300k Lancaster is past 100k now.
Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia (Rock Hill): +31,381 people
Myrtle Beach: +18,212 people
Greenville: +10,609 people
Charleston: +10,091 people
Columbia: +7,483 people
Spartanburg: +6,500 people
Hilton Head-Bluffton: +5,308 people
Augusta-Richmond (Aiken): +4,213 people
Florence: -379 people
Sumter: -728 people
Charleston was the only SC metro to have more births than deaths over the year with the others relying on immigration.
Cdata you're quite demanding. But then again, you're an English guy, not so much the mathmetician. Nonetheless, Ledmonkey is going to quit forever if you keep busting his balls lol Just poking fun.
Personally i think some of these numbers for growth/decline are rather nonsensical (Namely stuff like New York having a 1.8% decline or LA declining 1.5%) If i had to guess it's a case of estimates not being corrected enough after the census showed a huge discrepancy in estimates and actuals.
Thank you so much, Ledmonkey - something for everyone, no matter their main focus: counties, metros, number gained, percentage increase. You rock.
I just saw an article on my news feed from The Boston Globe saying Suffolk County (Boston) saw one of the nation’s biggest declines , 3.3%. So the COVID/remote work/cold weather “perfect storm” as the journalist calls it, must be real, but it could be relatively temporary, that degree of out-migration anyway.
Interesting you bring up the media markets as that could be a good indicator for ties of surrounding areas. My dad worked in radio so he was always reciting the media markets and they usually differed from MSA rankings of course.
So these commutes in MSA's don't only mean commuting for work, It could also represent people from adjacent counties (like Calhoun county for instance) shopping on lets say Harbison boulevard in Columbia. Or people people in Brunswick county traveling to the Myrtle Beach area for entertainment. Am I right on this?
Very, very interested to see if they lump Spartanburg and Greenville together again. It's so urbanized you almost don't recognize you've crossed over county lines (in Greer for example). Even some areas south of the GSP airport are having some residential developments which are right smack on the county line.
No you are not correct on this. It is strictly the percent of the non-farm workforce of an outlying county that commutes for work into the central county or counties. I really do not see the big deal everyone makes out of split MSAs. The US Census Bureau is gauging the degree that the central county dominates its region. If it does not dominate the region totally then the Bureau has created the CSA to cover those central counties that are not as dominant.
Also, bringing counties into the MSA that are part of the TV market or counties where shoppers originate in an outlying county and shop in the central county would create very large and sprawling MSAs. Using this criteria can you imagine the size of the NYC MSA. And tracking shopping data would be too subjective. How many times per year would shoppers from outlying county have to shop in central county for the outlying county to be added. And how much must the average shopper spend? Really, the only way to track it is with commuters.
And some say that there is no way that Spartanburg County should not be part of the Greenville MSA since it borders it. Just because a county borders the central county or is in its region, this does not mean that it should automatically belong. There was a time when when some counties bordering Mecklenburg were not part of the metro area. At that time Mecklenburg was much smaller and its sphere of influence was much less. If all counties that border central counties were to be included then a smaller less populous county in a rural setting where the central city is only 50k population could have as many as 7 counties in its MSA. So, after one thinks about it, you realize that you have to have standards related to commuting to work.
And in that small rural county where the central city is only 50k, without commuting data, and supporting the idea that if a county is in the region of that central county then it should be part of the MSA, then where does the border for the MSA end. Without commuting data, the MSA could go on and on.
After giving it thought, it is apparent that the census bureau did give the specifications quite a bit of thought.
Also, cities that annex areas bordering the city limit are annexing to increase the city’s tax revenue. While people on this forum may be concerned about a city’s population, cities are concerned primarily about revenue.
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