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Old 11-10-2020, 06:22 AM
 
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Voices from the Pandemic

‘Election Day is over, and guess what?’

Tom Dean, a physician, on the dire situation in South Dakota


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...n/?arc404=true

"Election Day is over, and guess what? The virus is still here. It didn’t just go away like the president said. We’re not rounding any corners. Nobody I know in South Dakota stopped talking about it because the voting is done. How could we? It’s right in our faces. It’s spreading. It keeps getting worse."

"My dad was over 100. My parents lived a good life, and they were at the end of their road. They got married 76 years ago during World War II once they’d finally saved up enough of their sugar rations to bake a proper wedding cake. They loved telling that story. Everybody was sacrificing for the war. It was a national effort. They were proud of it. The country had bigger problems, and their wedding cake could wait.

How can we get back to that? What happened to us? My hope now that this election is over is maybe we can take a break from tearing each other apart. The virus is still raging, and there’s no magic solution. It doesn’t just go away unless we stop it."
Quarantine should only be violated for the most pressing issues, like this:

'
D.C. Mayor Violates Own COVID Travel Restrictions to Attend Biden Party
Bowser declares trip ‘essential,’ won’t quarantine
'

And of course:

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Covid Skips Dems? Notre Dame Crowd Shamed, But Biden Block Party Celebrated
'


You may think comments like the above are clever, but when they're blatantly applied to only one side of the political spectrum it's clear your only interest is political, and not anyone's well being.
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Old 11-10-2020, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis, East Side
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Originally Posted by Vision67 View Post
Voices from the Pandemic

‘Election Day is over, and guess what?’

Tom Dean, a physician, on the dire situation in South Dakota


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...n/?arc404=true

"Election Day is over, and guess what? The virus is still here. It didn’t just go away like the president said. We’re not rounding any corners. Nobody I know in South Dakota stopped talking about it because the voting is done. How could we? It’s right in our faces. It’s spreading. It keeps getting worse."

"My dad was over 100. My parents lived a good life, and they were at the end of their road. They got married 76 years ago during World War II once they’d finally saved up enough of their sugar rations to bake a proper wedding cake. They loved telling that story. Everybody was sacrificing for the war. It was a national effort. They were proud of it. The country had bigger problems, and their wedding cake could wait.

How can we get back to that? What happened to us? My hope now that this election is over is maybe we can take a break from tearing each other apart. The virus is still raging, and there’s no magic solution. It doesn’t just go away unless we stop it."
You can stop a military invasion. You can't stop a virus so contagious that people have caught it while quarantined. The doctor himself says that the local nursing home--where the dire situation mostly is in his county--was very careful.

As for the good ol' days, it was common to get married on the fly during WWII, and not a few GIs came home to children they weren't entirely sure they'd sired.

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Old 11-11-2020, 07:47 AM
 
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You may think comments like the above are clever, but when they're blatantly applied to only one side of the political spectrum it's clear your only interest is political, and not anyone's well being.

This^^^. BTW, numbers are up in UK, France and Italy. Must be Trump's fault.
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Old 11-11-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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The number of non-residents who feel the need to discuss what happens in our state here is very odd.
Non resident here.
What is happening in the Dakotas is catching national attention with many asking the question posed by the header
Uh, apologies to freedom loving Gov, but how many have to die before doing what nearly all western countries have done?
You have rural areas with a long history of not having adequate critical care specialists and critical care RNs coupled with a complete lack of mitigation efforts by officials.

By mid December daily deaths should reach up to 110-115 based on present cases.

The national press is reporting South Dakota is including neonatal ICU beds in the ICU Availability counts. This is shady as hell. Which is why the AP , USnews and world report And news organizations from Seattle Texas and New Jersey are reporting this.

The national press is Also reporting North Dakota has 100% occupancy and is allowing asymptotic covid infected nurses to return to work because of work force shortage.

As long as no mitigation efforts are in place I expect more lies about hospital capacity and more desperate measures such as allowing asymptomatic covid infected nurses into hospitals.

Lives are at stake people care.

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Old 11-11-2020, 01:17 PM
 
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The news is too grim but the headline of the year is this:
The Leading Cause of Death in SD is Now the Coronavirus.
In little more than the last three months... after months of learning about the virus, watching it kill hundreds of thousands of others and doing nothing to protect fellow citizens, South Dakota has seen the death rate soar.
Covid19 now kills 3X the number of people that die of Heart Disease (formerly #1)
Covid19 now kills 4X the number of people that die of Lung Disease (40 per mo.) (formerly #2)
Covid19 now kills 6X the number of people that die of Alzheimers (36 per month) (formerly #3)
Covid19 now kills 7X the number of people that die of Lung Cancer (32 per month) (formerly #4)
Covid19 now kills 7X the number of people that die of STROKE (31 per month) formerly #5)
Covid19 now kills 7X the number of people that die of Hypertension (32 per month) formerly #6
Covid19 now kills almost 10X the number of people that die of diabetes (20 per mo.) formerly #7

The list goes on and on. I know someone who died of this by drowning in his own fluids and it was a horrible death. The second pity is this is not a "lifestyle" disease. Lung cancer? Now that's largely brought on by one's own actions. As is diabetes. And Hypertension. The second worst part -- aside from the agonizing reality of dying alone without any family -- is knowing you probably could have lived if we had all done our part.

Since moving here I've heard plenty of excuses wrapped in the word "freedom." But these people pay their taxes, they register their guns, they get a drivers license and they make their kids wear a seat belt. Freedom takes a back seat (no pun intended) when it comes to wearing a seat belt. But a mask is beyond their ability to comprehend. In my business we observe how a man responds to "choices" and it correlates to the measure of a mans responsibility, integrity and how he'll look out for his team when the going gets tough. It's a real eye-opener.

Have you seen the charts in the paper and online of the soaring deaths and cases in SD? It's pretty dramatic how the new cases and the deaths are sky-rocketing. I hope it has peaked but there may be several more tough months to come. Good luck all and try to protect your loved ones from those who refuse to "man up." Thanks to those who believe in science and are committed to serving humankind, a vaccine will arrive sometime next year. Just buckle down and make it through the winter. When this is all behind us, I suspect the economy will BOOM!!! Happy days will return to the restaurants and hospitality sectors. Travel! Tourism! Bright days ahead! For now, just be a patriot and help get this scourge behind us! Years from now, when you look back, you'll be glad you did!

FYI: The stats are from SD Health Rankings found on World Life Expectancy.
Look at the annual number of deaths, break it down into a monthly number and compare to the last 3 months (10+ weeks) of SD Covid deaths averaging almost 200 per month.

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Old 11-11-2020, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis, East Side
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The news is too grim but the headline of the year is this:
The Leading Cause of Death in SD is Now the Coronavirus.
In little more than the last three months... after months of learning about the virus, watching it kill hundreds of thousands of others and doing nothing to protect fellow citizens, South Dakota has seen the death rate soar.
FYI: The stats are from SD Health Rankings found on World Life Expectancy.
Look at the annual number of deaths, break it down into a monthly number and compare to the last 3 months of SD Covid deaths averaging 200 per month.
According to the site you referenced, COVID19 is a distant second cause of death after heart disease in South Dakota. The same is true for Michigan, Pennsylvania, and California, where they took a hard line, making up rules now mostly voided by courts.

https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/...9-south-dakota
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Old 11-11-2020, 04:00 PM
 
Location: NE SD
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Since moving here I've heard plenty of excuses wrapped in the word "freedom." But these people pay their taxes, they register their guns, they get a drivers license and they make their kids wear a seat belt. Freedom takes a back seat (no pun intended) when it comes to wearing a seat belt. But a mask is beyond their ability to comprehend. In my business we observe how a man responds to "choices" and it correlates to the measure of a mans responsibility, integrity and how he'll look out for his team when the going gets tough. It's a real eye-opener.
Don't hold your breath on anything changing. If the Biden administration tries to push any sweeping mandates it's unlikely they will be enforced here. Law enforcement and the judicial system here have serious and actual work to do rather than focus on trivial foolishness.
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Old 11-12-2020, 09:28 PM
 
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The list goes on and on. I know someone who died of this by drowning in his own fluids and it was a horrible death. The second pity is this is not a "lifestyle" disease. Lung cancer? Now that's largely brought on by one's own actions. As is diabetes. And Hypertension. The second worst part -- aside from the agonizing reality of dying alone without any family -- is knowing you probably could have lived if we had all done our part.

I was once talking at a supermarket and complete stranger butt in to my conservation. We were talking about my mother and her COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease. This complete stranger kept saying it HAD to be my mother's fault for smoking. When I said she never smoked, he kept insisting she had. What a jerk!

Lung cancer could be from exposure to asbestos or radon or an inherited gene or nothing at all.

Doctors do know that Type 1 diabetes is generally considered to be an autoimmune disorder. Autoimmune disorders occur when the immune system attacks the body's own tissues and organs. For unknown reasons, in people with type 1 diabetes the immune system damages the insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas. Both type of diabetes, 1 and 2 are inherited.

Doctors don't know everything. While they suggest lifestyle changes, they can not predict or guarantee the results.

As for SD, Europe had lockdowns and everyone wears a mask and they are still having a second wave.
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Old 11-13-2020, 09:24 PM
 
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