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Old 11-02-2020, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Boston
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So your big complaint is there is no mask mandate.

It may surprise you to learn people wear masks even without a mandate. It may shock you to learn even with a mandate not everyone will wear a mask.

I'll go back to what I said originally. The small percentage of people in the high risk group should protect themselves, because no government mandate is going to protect them. Acting otherwise is inviting trouble. I wear a mask and I avoid people obviously in the high risk group, but if they don't protect themselves it's only a matter of time before they contract it, no matter what I or anyone else does. But that's just my suggestion to them, they're adults and they're free to make their own decision without interference.

Your faux concern for others' well being is faux appreciated. Using fake concern for others to make political attacks with no intent to be constructive is just sad.
I spent a week in the Carolinas recently, amazed at what little regard people had for wearing PPE's. You can't force them to.
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Old 11-02-2020, 10:30 AM
 
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The trump administration response to covid was an abject failure.If you think the New England journal of medicine,Science and Nature editorial boards are wrong list equally esteemed scientific journals that say different.

1) this is a situation were officials mandated mitigation to decrease the spread and issued citations to violators
If you read THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD and my quote “ I think governors who ignore the science and experts and wait until deaths are spiraling out of control and hospitals are overwhelmed to begin covid mitigation Actions are incompetent.” mitigation efforts are in place in this instance

2) the article does not say he is easing restrictions let me repeat THE ARTICLE DOES NOT SAY HE IS EASING RESTRICTIONS he REPLACED travel restrictions with a testing and quarantine protocol.

3)you keep saying it did not work. Are you not aware that epidemiologist, infectious disease specialists the people with PhD and MDs predicted a fall surge?
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...of-coronavirus
https://www.wjr.com/2020/10/15/exper...v-surge-is-on/
https://www.ajc.com/news/nation-worl...A3WTNTHWZZPAU/

The only one who said there would not be a fall surge was trump. This increase was expected so it did work.

Your post is a mess.
It's clear you're either choosing to not read what I write, don't understand what I write, or ignore what I write so you can continue making political attacks. So there's no point in continuing to respond to you.

Welcome to my ignore list, have a nice day.
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Old 11-02-2020, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Hi Artillery77, I generally agree with your post, but respectfully take issue with one statement and some might chalk it up to semantics...

Wearing a mask should not be done as a courtesy. A courtesy is opening a door for another to walk through. That is an example of a courtesy. A nicety. An act of politeness. But a mask is not one of those things. Not wearing a mask in public where others are subjected to breathing the same air as you is nothing short of being rude and inconsiderate. Not wearing a mask around strangers is not only selfish, it's tantamount to giving a giant F-YOU to those in your presence.

Especially given the soaring numbers of Covid-positive. At least South Dakota and other states can learn from the experience garnered in New York and California as to how to best treat the disease. You're Welcome, South Dakota. Sadly, it looks as too many aren't willing to benefit from the lessons learned. Nearly a quarter million dead and counting...
South Dakota is a courteous state. I dare say an appeal to common courtesy would go much further than a governmental requirement. You can reason with most people there. Tougher to order around though.
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Old 11-04-2020, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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I'm glad at least the election got us distracted from covid for a couple of days. Also the fact we managed to legalize marijuana in South Dakota which is a pretty big accomplishment.
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Old 11-05-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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I'm glad at least the election got us distracted from covid for a couple of days. Also the fact we managed to legalize marijuana in South Dakota which is a pretty big accomplishment.
Is it too much to want an honest election in America? Glad the election is behind us, though the end result will be unsatisfactory for too many of us. As for the rest, wear a mask, when you aren't smoking your MaryJane and munching on your pot brownies and soon all of this will pass.

Last edited by HavePassportReadyToGo; 11-05-2020 at 03:12 PM.. Reason: typo
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Old 11-06-2020, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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I'm glad at least the election got us distracted from covid for a couple of days. Also the fact we managed to legalize marijuana in South Dakota which is a pretty big accomplishment.
I don't see how that can be considered an accomplishment. The result of that vote surprised me. As if this state needs more legal vices to ruin lives.

What I wish is that as a state we would have lessened the criminal part of marijuana in the state, but still keeping it illegal. Rehabilitation instead of incarceration is a much smarter way to go. Few regular users of weed ever better their or their families lives by smoking. This makes it FAR to easy for young people to get hooked on this. Also, it is a gateway drug to much worse. I'll never listen to any foolish argument to the contrary. Seen too much.
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Old 11-06-2020, 08:08 AM
 
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I don't see how that can be considered an accomplishment. The result of that vote surprised me. As if this state needs more legal vices to ruin lives.

What I wish is that as a state we would have lessened the criminal part of marijuana in the state, but still keeping it illegal. Rehabilitation instead of incarceration is a much smarter way to go. Few regular users of weed ever better their or their families lives by smoking. This makes it FAR to easy for young people to get hooked on this. Also, it is a gateway drug to much worse. I'll never listen to any foolish argument to the contrary. Seen too much.
I agree, some marijuana user might get high and be stupid enough to drink alcohol, the worst drug of all.
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Old 11-07-2020, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis, East Side
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What I rarely see expressed in these debates is the desire some of us have to be treated like adults. Denver has a 10 PM curfew. A curfew for adults. I don't care that they have a lower death rate from COVID than where I live now--I don't want to be treated like a child and I don't want to be a prisoner in my own home.
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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What I rarely see expressed in these debates is the desire some of us have to be treated like adults. Denver has a 10 PM curfew. A curfew for adults. I don't care that they have a lower death rate from COVID than where I live now--I don't want to be treated like a child and I don't want to be a prisoner in my own home.
I would say that you can't treat the average person like an adult. They are too self centered and dumb to care about anything but their own wants. Then when something bad happens they don't take any responsibility for their own actions and blame others.

The above post is a perfect example why we can't blame the President, Governors, or any public official.
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Old 11-07-2020, 09:29 AM
 
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I would say that you can't treat the average person like an adult.
Freedom == you get to make your own choices, and accept the consequences, good or bad.

Not letting people make their own choices == not free


We get to choose only one. 1) Let people make their own choices, knowing in advance some will undoubtedly make unwise choices, or 2) accept loss of freedom.

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