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Old 10-01-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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"Dear William,

Here is Revised3 version of the update (ok to release): — Sep 30 update (newest):

New “Massive” Deflection Detonation on Asteroid (boosted to “Earth Escape Velocity”):

The incoming Very Large Asteroid’s main body core may have been boosted to just above the “Earth Escape Velocity”** as the result of a new and “Massive” space nuclear detonation at 90 degrees to the Asteroid’s flight trajectory.

This would be encouraging news.

However, a new and serious danger emerges as this extremely massive detonation has a radial ejecta pattern that likely will throw very large fragments towards Earth.

This Very Large, “Deflection” Detonation Further endangers Earth:

This “Massive Detonation” was performed on the surface of the Asteroid a few days ago, striking 90 degrees to the Asteroid’s flight angle. This Deflection attempt will most likely send more fragments to Earth as the “side hit” radial ejecta pattern includes an Earth directed solution. The radial ejecta debris would also be accelerated to a higher velocity by the detonation force-to-mass-velocity translation of the fragment size(s) and including smaller debris. The blast induced injected energy would shorten the arrival transit time of the new fragments/debris to Earth.

New Strategy executed – Boosted to an orbital velocity (or greater):

This Detonation reveals a last attempt, and possibly successful, intervention on the massive Asteroid – to boost it into an orbital solution with the Earth (or even a “sling-shot” solution away from Earth) *.

From x,y,z coordinates and flight trajectory of the Asteroid (with respect to Earth), this latest large detonation increased the Asteroid’s velocity from 0.6172 km/s to 0.7859 km/s ** and a 3.5 degree shift movement near 80 degrees to the line of flight trajectory. The new “corrected” Lunar Distance x,y,z (from earth) Asteroid location is at a 0.747485 km/s “Earth Escape Velocity” solution ***. This is a 0.038415 km/s higher Asteroid velocity – above the Earth Escape Velocity (to keep from falling into Earth from Earth’s gravity). Before this last detonation, the Asteroid was -0.130285 km/s too slow to escape Earth’s Gravity Well. Further measurements will determine if this result holds.

Recent “Massive” detonations on Megaton nuclear scale:

The detonation, considered to be massive in the nuclear megaton scale, and correlated/confirmed by other data (confidential), created a notable shift of the before/after x,y,z location and vector heading of the Asteroid (within a 24 hour period).

The relative size of the two recent “massive” detonations were significant in the emissive near-infrared, and including visible light spectrum, compared to the earlier less energetic detonations (i.e. prior 2 deflection and at least 3 “direct hit” detonations with lower Megaton yield(s)).

Timing – Large Fragments Earth Directed & Accelerated:

The Asteroid deflection was at 90 degrees to the Asteroid’s surface – with respect to the Asteroid’s incoming trajectory to Earth.

Because of this angled detonation, and the nuclear megaton detonation scale, there is a high probability that large fragments were broken off and ejected to a higher incoming velocity towards Earth.

This could result in large fragments and smaller pieces reaching Earth in the early October window (at or before the first week of October timeframe).

Tracking of Large Fragments:

As the “Main body Asteroid core” is very very large, its emissive signature, from space, it is clearly identifiable (requires data access + specialized equipment & image processing systems). However, large fragments, that can still be a significant threat to locations around the Earth, are only trackable by near Earth “space based telescopes” and/or Earth based space radar systems.

Hopefully, Government agencies will open up and provide adequate warning to the public.

22.5 degree offset from the Sun:

Earth based optical telescopes, if used to locate and track the “main body” asteroid, would require overcoming a significant challenge. The Asteroid, is very close to the centerline from the Earth to the Sun, with an offset close to 22.5 degrees from this centerline to the center of the sun (angle reference is from radius to Earth’s surface). (note: the offset has been changing from the interactions of all of the detonations and from the trajectory curving influence of Earth’s gravity).

Note1: * The new angular velocity is very close to an “Escape Velocity” (within margin of error) – thus Orbital velocity potential to Earth, it is possible that there may be in an elliptical orbit around Earth (if the complex Earth/Moon summation gravity “captures” this Asteroid. The “Elliptical” orbit is based on the current x,y,z and vector heading at a distance greater than 1 LD (Lunar Distance). An elliptical orbit will likely have a “precession”. The combination of these two factors could risk an eventual collision with the Moon if the inner elliptical orbit (Perigee) is within 1 LD (Lunar Distance average) or less.

Note2: ** Asteroid Absolute “plane of the Ecliptic” Velocity (~29.9km/s) is not reflected in these “relative Earth-Asteroid velocities. The Asteroid had been reduced in its original velocity from all of the prior “direct hit” and “deflection” detonations.

Note3: *** Escape Velocity calculated with Mass-Distance of Earth only – not included is the complex average of the effect of the Earth/Moon."

God Bless
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Old 10-01-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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FEMA To Conduct Nationwide Test Of Emergency Alert System September 28, 2016

Dear William,

The United States as conducted a Nationwide Test of the Emergency Alert System, September 28, 2016, at 2:20 pm EDT. This is no information whether this is linked to any of the current activity regarding meteor fireball sightings.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/28/ ... stem-test/
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Old 10-01-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hkcgohw0wY
METEORS HITS THE EARTH/QUAKE/SHOCKWAVE/AUSTRALIA
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Old 10-01-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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"EMERGENCY NEWS

"The Asteroid is not broken up into pieces. The main core is intact. However, major fragments are coming down — the largest seen in Australia.

Asteroid is Not “broken into pieces” – the main core is intact:

Contrary to some sources – who have said that the Asteroid was “broken up”; this is not the case.

Massive Detonation:

Recently, a massive surface detonation* on the very large Asteroid, notably changed the trajectory and velocity of this Asteroid.

Size of Asteroid Reduced:

The recent massive surface detonation* has also significantly reduced the remaining size of the Asteroid. However, this remainder is still major, and now has become an immediate threat to Earth.

Expect Major Debris & Fragments:

The significant reduction of the original very large size down to the remaining core of the asteroid would infer that the rest of the Asteroid has been fragmented into a major “debris field”.

Debris and fragments will continue to enter the Earth’s atmosphere from the original interventions***.

It is expected that the massive detonation has resulted in a very large debris field. This likely will result in a significant worldwide increase of meteors and fireballs.

Threat to Earth (velocity/trajectory):

This threat is due to Its velocity now increasing and its trajectory has been dramatically altered at/near Earth (dramatic changes occurred within the detonation window*).

Due to the prior detonation interventions, the Asteroid’s velocity, with respect to Earth, had slowed to its lowest levels since late August. The angular rate of change was consistent and was changing -away- with respect to Earth a “line of intercept or intersection”.

After the massive detonation*, the Asteroid, although now much smaller, is now at a velocity that has shown to be at a near a 3x increase. The new Asteroid trajectory has now changed towards Earth. The data indicates that the Asteroid does not have the escape velocity to avoid being pulled into Earth (by Earth’s gravity).

Timing Estimate:

As for the timing: Additional observations/measurements are required to identify this answer in an accurate time window.

Government agencies, if they were to come forward, have the ability to provide the public with specific information.

Until then, only estimates may be provided.

(Best estimate: a logarithmic gravity acceleration curve – IF the Asteroid’s acceleration continues to increase would yield an October – early October – solution. This calculation is based on no further interventional changes).




The Asteroid to hit Earth some time in early October. The smaller pieces will come down within these next two weeks. The World has begun reporting them.

Please forward this information to President Obama and other World Leaders and to all Newspapers.

There has been a large nuclear detonation on the Astroid causing major fall-out.

NASA must use the rocket Atlas V from Vandenburg AFB, to try to destroy this Asteroid. I believe it must be done by 100,000 kilometres above Earth. The public must be warned, and the Governments must warn the People now, so people can prepare food and water and reconcile with God and their families."
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Old 10-01-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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Be careful what you wish for...

13 Percent of People Prefer a Giant Meteor Crashing to Earth Over a Trump or Clinton Presidency | US News
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Old 10-01-2016, 05:50 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Now where did I put my umbrella?
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:01 PM
 
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Excellent sci fi book! Oh, wait. It's been done. To death.
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:22 PM
 
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Just a few.

Meteor (1979) - IMDb

10 Memorable Meteor Movies - ScreenPicks

Night of the Comet (1984) - IMDb

I especially liked the (mis)use of "Earth escape velocity." Roger Corman would be proud.
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Old 10-02-2016, 12:05 AM
 
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Generally "news" items like this require some kind of original URL or Source to be cited so that others can verify its existence and to consider the 'authority' of the source.

I am not saying this is total hogwash, but if nothing is done to give it more credibility, then folks are going to pass it off as just another fictional story. So, here's the challenge - give us something we can investigate if we are to believe this.

I suspect that if it is true, we will probably find out in a rather more direct way than we would like.
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Old 10-02-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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"EMERGENCY NEWS

"The Asteroid is not broken up into pieces. The main core is intact. However, major fragments are coming down — the largest seen in Australia.
Sightings of meteorites worldwide. Scroll down to the map and wait - it won't do much until all the locations are displayed.

Pan to Australia.

Laugh your butt off.

The Latest Worldwide Meteor / Fireball Reports
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