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Old 05-12-2014, 06:58 PM
 
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This is a theory which explains that planet formation is stellar evolution itself. A planet is nothing but an ancient/dying star. They were never mutually exclusive, ever. A star is a new planet and a planet is an ancient star.

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Stellar metamorphosis - Riff Wiki
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Just because the link has the name "wiki" in the domain name, dont assume it's valid as actual knowledge.

In a nutshell, to be polite, it's just a load of crap.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Westwood, MA
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I'm with Ben on this one. There is a lot of physical evidence as to why stars and planets are distinct. No evidence seems to be offered in support of them being the same.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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This is a theory which explains that planet formation is stellar evolution itself. A planet is nothing but an ancient/dying star. They were never mutually exclusive, ever. A star is a new planet and a planet is an ancient star.

What do you think?

Stellar metamorphosis - Riff Wiki
Actually, the difference between a planet and a star is its mass. Anything that has sufficient mass to achieve hydrostatic equilibrium (becomes round) due to gravitational forces, but less than ~13 Jupiter masses, is a planet (as in "planetoid", "minor planet", "dwarf planet", "planet", and/or "gas giant").

If an object has more than ~13 Jupiter masses deuterium burning begins and the object becomes a Brown Dwarf. If there is sufficient mass for the core to reach more than 15 million degrees Kelvin, hydrogen fusion begins and a star is born.

While both stars and planets are formed from the same solar nebula, they are indeed very different objects. Planets are merely the left over scraps that did not go into the formation of the star. Just as asteroids, comets, and planetesimals are left over scraps that did not go into the formation of the planets. All the planets in a given solar system are the same age as their parent star and made from the same material.
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Old 07-25-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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mainstream scientists have no idea how planets are formed:

Scientists have NO idea how planets form: Discovery of hundreds of new worlds has left experts baffled | Mail Online

They are old evolving stars. A planet is an ancient star.
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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mainstream scientists have no idea how planets are formed:

Scientists have NO idea how planets form: Discovery of hundreds of new worlds has left experts baffled | Mail Online

They are old evolving stars. A planet is an ancient star.
Consider the source.

Planets are not ancient stars, not even remotely.
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:17 PM
 
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Consider the source.

Planets are not ancient stars, not even remotely.
You don't even have to consider the source - all you need to do is read the article, and you plainly see that there is not one word in there that suggests planets are ancient stars.

And if you do read the article, you'll quickly find that the material there doesn't even come close to matching the breathless drama of the headline. The article itself is just a poorly-written rehash of a few aspects of planetary research over the last ten years or so. The titular assertion that "scientists have NO idea how planets form" is a flat-out lie, and the article itself doesn't even attempt to support that idiotic hyperbole.
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Old 07-26-2014, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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They are old evolving stars. A planet is an ancient star.
So how did they get to be in near circular orbits around a new star and all in the same plane? And moons? Are they ancient stars too? And why would some ancient stars evolve into rocky inner planets and into gas giants as outer planets?
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