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This appears to be the elephant in the room to me. No-one on this forum is acknowledging these craft to be real.
Who is flying these things? Russians? Americans? Chinese? These huge craft have reportedly been seen in the skies and underwater too, by many people. There have been so many sightings by credible witnesses, but what are they?
So, if you think these are not real, are we saying all these reports are misidentification(weather balloons, flares, swamp gas, Venus, etc), mistakes or just plain lies?
If we accept them as military projects, then we can no longer believe that jet and rocket technology is a current and valid way to get to the Moon, Mars, or wherever. So, why are we using it still?
If we do not accept them as military projects, then we have to ask what are they and where do they come from?
This appears to be the elephant in the room to me. No-one on this forum is acknowledging these craft to be real.
Who is flying these things? Russians? Americans? Chinese? These huge craft have reportedly been seen in the skies and underwater too, by many people. There have been so many sightings by credible witnesses, but what are they?
So, if you think these are not real, are we saying all these reports are misidentification(weather balloons, flares, swamp gas, Venus, etc), mistakes or just plain lies?
If we accept them as military projects, then we can no longer believe that jet and rocket technology is a current and valid way to get to the Moon, Mars, or wherever. So, why are we using it still?
If we do not accept them as military projects, then we have to ask what are they and where do they come from?
Start reading on CIA.gov on their released FOIA documents page relating to UFOs/UAPs, there are documents from many other countries as well, it was well known back then, these craft were NOT anyones experimental craft though, (that much they all knew)...
* This is also proven today, as NO country ever developed an aircraft with those capabilities and characteristics, and we also know what each country was working on in terms of aircraft development at that time, NOTHING even remotely close to what was being seen in the skies.
Ultimately, there are not many possibilities, especially when its involving craft that have an intelligence controlling them, its either some nations experimental/test aircraft, OR its not from this planet ( I do not see any other possibilities).
*Naturally occurring phenomena can be counted out, per the intelligent control aspect....what else is there?
The point is, we all talk on the Space forum about rockets to get spacecraft into space - just look at some of the threads started recently about rocket launches. No-one acknowledges the existence of other technology. I asked why that is?
This other technology - if it is military - can be used to get craft into space and rockets become obsolete.
There have been 3 videos released and were acknowledged to be Navy fighter videos from their cameras. These do not feature rocket or jet powered craft which is the current technology we use to get spacecraft into space.
Thousands of people have seen huge triangular craft over large US and Russian cities which do not use jets or rockets, yet they often appear to go straight up into space at a rate which is impossible for jet technology and they do not use rocket technology.
The point is, we all talk on the Space forum about rockets to get spacecraft into space - just look at some of the threads started recently about rocket launches. No-one acknowledges the existence of other technology. I asked why that is?
This other technology - if it is military - can be used to get craft into space and rockets become obsolete.
There have been 3 videos released and were acknowledged to be Navy fighter videos from their cameras. These do not feature rocket or jet powered craft which is the current technology we use to get spacecraft into space.
Thousands of people have seen huge triangular craft over large US and Russian cities which do not use jets or rockets, yet they often appear to go straight up into space at a rate which is impossible for jet technology and they do not use rocket technology.
Does that make it clearer?
No. Links, ocpaul20, LINKS to your statements, please...
Otherwise, this thread goes to Mysteries Forum.
The news that the Navy considers the three videos—unofficially known as “FLIR1,” “Gimbal” and “GoFast”—as examples of UAPs first appeared on The Black Vault, a web site that specializes in declassified government documents. “FLIR1” is from November 14, 2004, and “Gimbal” and “GoFast” are from January 21, 2015. Joseph Gradisher, official spokesperson for the deputy chief of naval operations for information warfare, emphasized to HISTORY that these videos represent only some of the UAP sightings the Navy is investigating.
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It was during the production of HISTORY’s series “Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation,” the first season of which explored UAP phenomena in military contexts, that the active-duty Navy pilots who encountered the crafts captured in the three videos initially came forward to share their stories. The series, in partnership with To the Stars Academy, helped spark a dialogue that resulted in official acknowledgment of these crafts.
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