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Coupled on that... what if our world, which we think is of a certain size, is actually small, compared to other larger 'dimensions' [dimensions used here not in the normal "3-dimensional" sense of the word, but as more of a scale]. Are we mere ants to others? Or to paraphrase the immortal [hmmmm,,, is there really immortality in a finite universe? ] Dr. Seus's Horton "There are peoples down there, small, yet I can hear them... not see 'em, but hear 'em... they are there!" So, are we merely Who-peoples too? And then there are other larger space/universes, each their own 'bubble'? All connected in never ending bubble bath? And then there is a very ultra large humongous Grinch popping bubbles every so often... hence the big bangings. Good night, and pleasant dreams... Man, I knew I shouldn't eat pepperoni-sausage pizza and drink that many glasses of mead.
But how can there be an end when there most be something beyond that end. Lets immagane that we could travel at the speed of light *1000. We would travel so fast that we could "out run"space. What would be there, at the end. More space?
Are we talking different demmentions here? Just too complex for our brains to grip?
It is extremely difficult, if not impossible to fully understand the concept of nothing. What is beyond the end of our Universe? Nothing that we could currently comprehend. If there is anything beyond the Universe then it would mean that something was either there before, or at the same moment that, the Universe was created. And holy jeebus, that is a seriously big mind-f**k in and of itself.
Some advice for you, unless you are into some really heavy philosophy or masochism, it is best that you do not dwell on this topic for too long. Have some fun discussing it, for sure, but believe me, this thing will drive you bat-sh*t crazy if you dwell on it for too long.
Coupled on that... what if our world, which we think is of a certain size, is actually small, compared to other larger 'dimensions' [dimensions used here not in the normal "3-dimensional" sense of the word, but as more of a scale]. Are we mere ants to others?
You don't need other dimensions to show that the world is small. We're vastly smaller than ants. For the sake of scale comparisons, the Earth is to the galaxy like an atom is to you. And compared to the scale of the universe, the Earth may as well be invisible. There are estimated to be perhaps 100-400 billion stars just in our Milky Way galaxy. And there could be at least 100-200 billion galaxies in the observable universe. Most likely there are many more beyond.
Kinda make the Earth look pretty small, doesn't it?
It is extremely difficult, if not impossible to fully understand the concept of nothing. What is beyond the end of our Universe? Nothing that we could currently comprehend. If there is anything beyond the Universe then it would mean that something was either there before, or at the same moment that, the Universe was created. And holy jeebus, that is a seriously big mind-f**k in and of itself.
Some advice for you, unless you are into some really heavy philosophy or masochism, it is best that you do not dwell on this topic for too long. Have some fun discussing it, for sure, but believe me, this thing will drive you bat-sh*t crazy if you dwell on it for too long.
You're absolutely right. The scales are just so incredibly vast that we really can't get our brains fully wrapped around concepts like the universe and beyond. Just trying to guess how many stars are in the observable universe alone gets into numbers so big that we can't actually conceive it apart from using abstractions, which doesn't really tell you very much.
You don't need other dimensions to show that the world is small. We're vastly smaller than ants. For the sake of scale comparisons, the Earth is to the galaxy like an atom is to you. And compared to the scale of the universe, the Earth may as well be invisible. There are estimated to be perhaps 100-400 billion stars just in our Milky Way galaxy. And there could be at least 100-200 billion galaxies in the observable universe. Most likely there are many more beyond.
Kinda make the Earth look pretty small, doesn't it?
Yea, that is true, and I realize/recognize all that... but my point I failed to get across here I guess is that our entire known universe is beyond small - its just all one of many multiples yet more "bubbles"; we are nothing more than even smaller than the Whoville peoples that are on Horton's speck.
I read onec that if you can see far enough in sufficient detail you will see the back of your own head. I am not certain about that.
I am being exposed to the Reikki form of healing. I am trying to apply the scientific method to what I am observing and it is being a rather difficult thing to do because there are far too many variables to isolate only one and experiment with only that variable. (Sorry for the run on sentence.) Maybe space and healing are resistant to discussion in the English language.
Here's another way to think about it. Our notion of space is everything that we sense, experience, or measure. That includes what our telescopes and our theories of the universe tell us is out there, even though we can't sense it directly.
So, suppose there was an end to such space. What would be at the end? A wall? More empty space? If so, those things would also be part of what we call space. The reason you can't think of what is outside of space is that anything "outside" of it would become part of "space."
I don't think the human brain has the capability to understand complexities of this magnitude. It is just too mind-boggling.
Just as your dog has absolutely no idea how the stock market works or congress approves a bill - it is simply beyond the limits of their mental capacity. I think us humans have a limit too; there is probably some stuff going on out there that is beyond our capacity to understand.
Sure, we're the dominant species on the planet, with brain development orders of magnitude above any other animal, but why should we assume that we have the capacity to comprehend everything? That is being just a bit presumptuous, IMO.
Yup, we're making new scientific discoveries every day, but I, for one, believe there is still a boatload of stuff we don't know, most of which we don't even know that we don't know.
I don't think the human brain has the capability to understand complexities of this magnitude. It is just too mind-boggling.
Just as your dog has absolutely no idea how the stock market works or congress approves a bill - it is simply beyond the limits of their mental capacity. I think us humans have a limit too; there is probably some stuff going on out there that is beyond our capacity to understand.
Sure, we're the dominant species on the planet, with brain development orders of magnitude above any other animal, but why should we assume that we have the capacity to comprehend everything? That is being just a bit presumptuous, IMO.
Yup, we're making new scientific discoveries every day, but I, for one, believe there is still a boatload of stuff we don't know, most of which we don't even know that we don't know.
I think it is simple. Space is probably infinite. There probably is no end. [I only write "probably" because I can't prove it.] If there is a limit to the universe then it can't be called "universe".
Now, maybe there is a finite volume of mass and energy and that volume is expanding. The "universe" is expanding (sic). But, beyond that volume is probably infinite.
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