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Old 02-04-2009, 06:36 AM
 
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(CNN) -- Until recently, the Bilson household was under siege. Thirteen-year-old daughter Marissa, who has autism, ruled the roost, screaming shrilly until she got her way and enjoying special privileges that didn't extend to her siblings, Brittany, 15, and Brendan, 6.

The family couldn't go out in public because of Marissa's tantrums, and they couldn't take her into stores because she'd shoplift what she wanted, or just scream until she got it.

Teen's family transformed after autism intervention - CNN.com
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:37 PM
 
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The procedure used in this case, ABA, really does work. But only if it's applied consistently, and for the long term. It's an approach her family's going to have to adopt and continue to use. It's not like a 5-day intervention on its own would do anything at all. Hopefully, it gave this family a good introduction to tools they can use to address their daughter's autistic behaviors, and will be something with which they can remain consistent, with resources and support. I also hope that nobody reads the article at a glance, and takes it as, "Cure autism in a week."

It's also crazy that the therapy costs so much.
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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ABA treatments are a ripoff. They may be of some benefit but are outrageously expensive and ignore the chemical aspects of neurological development.

Half the symptoms of autism are caused by metabolic defects, and these parents would have better (and cheaper) results by removing the offending chemicals.

In children with autism:
  • Gluten and casein break down to morphine-like compounds (No need to explain what effect that can have on a child)
  • MSG and other glutamine derivatives that are hidden in processed foods cause reactions (Neurological and digestive symptoms)
  • Altered liver metabolism causes accumulation of toxins

Disclaimer: Autism is indeed a hot topic. Before I get bombarded with forum trolls, naysayers, skeptics, and the like... If you are reading this, your fingers and keyboard are working well enough to type one of the above topics into a search engine and learn. If you're too lazy, that is your issue. If you're defensive about a career choice that involves corrupted medicine, that is also your issue.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Eastern time zone
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ABA treatments are a ripoff. They may be of some benefit but are outrageously expensive and ignore the chemical aspects of neurological development.

Half the symptoms of autism are caused by metabolic defects, and these parents would have better (and cheaper) results by removing the offending chemicals.

In children with autism:
  • Gluten and casein break down to morphine-like compounds (No need to explain what effect that can have on a child)
  • MSG and other glutamine derivatives that are hidden in processed foods cause reactions (Neurological and digestive symptoms)
  • Altered liver metabolism causes accumulation of toxins

Disclaimer: Autism is indeed a hot topic. Before I get bombarded with forum trolls, naysayers, skeptics, and the like... If you are reading this, your fingers and keyboard are working well enough to type one of the above topics into a search engine and learn. If you're too lazy, that is your issue. If you're defensive about a career choice that involves corrupted medicine, that is also your issue.

You assume that someone would only disagree with these statements if they were unfamiliar with them. That is an incorrect assumption.
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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ABA treatments are a ripoff. They may be of some benefit but are outrageously expensive and ignore the chemical aspects of neurological development.

Half the symptoms of autism are caused by metabolic defects, and these parents would have better (and cheaper) results by removing the offending chemicals.

In children with autism:
  • Gluten and casein break down to morphine-like compounds (No need to explain what effect that can have on a child)
  • MSG and other glutamine derivatives that are hidden in processed foods cause reactions (Neurological and digestive symptoms)
  • Altered liver metabolism causes accumulation of toxins

Disclaimer: Autism is indeed a hot topic. Before I get bombarded with forum trolls, naysayers, skeptics, and the like... If you are reading this, your fingers and keyboard are working well enough to type one of the above topics into a search engine and learn. If you're too lazy, that is your issue. If you're defensive about a career choice that involves corrupted medicine, that is also your issue.
You do realize that this makes YOU sound overly defensive, right?

Just as nobody worth their salt in the autism field would be wise to discount possible chemical components, it's similarly shortsighted to downplay the significance of behavioral analysis and psychology in the handling of negative behavior.

You're also making it seem like ABA and dietary modification are mutually exclusive, which isn't so. My school (which is all ABA) has many students who do GFCF diets and other dietary modifications.
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:39 PM
 
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You do realize that this makes YOU sound overly defensive, right?

Just as nobody worth their salt in the autism field would be wise to discount possible chemical components, it's similarly shortsighted to downplay the significance of behavioral analysis and psychology in the handling of negative behavior.

You're also making it seem like ABA and dietary modification are mutually exclusive, which isn't so. My school (which is all ABA) has many students who do GFCF diets and other dietary modifications.
It's great that your school offers both. There are some areas of the country where parents are made to shell out upwards of $30k anually for ABA that insurance companies won't touch. And there are some ABA therapists out there who are vehemently opposed to any other treatments. Count your blessings if this is not the case in your school.

My disclaimer meant to fend off trolls, and I did not intend to offend anyone whose lives are touched by autism in some way. There are still quite a few people who don't believe autism exists, or that it cannot be treated by any means
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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ABA is just a written out form of good parenting.... cause and effect. My DSS is ASD. He learns through cause and effect. While there may be chemical reasons behind some of his responses, there are cause and effect reasons behind his dicipline. We do not try to conform him to a "normal" mold, but we do expect him to behave. Guess what.... he does. When he is overstimulated he goes to a place where it is appropriate to have a melt down, when the buzzing of the ceiling fan bothers him, he turns it off, when there is a texture of food he doesn't like he doesn't eat it, when his clothes bother him he changes outfits..... the thing is, we are teaching him to get along in this world. Not trying to change the world to get along with him.
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