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Old 07-03-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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Are people who have a Bears flag on their car or a Lakers sticker on the rear window or a Yankees coat they wear often,etc lost causes?

I'm all for having a good time and understand why people would want to watch athletes for entertainment. However, there is millions of people in this country that take it a few steps up on the importance factor in their lives and in objective reality.


Why do parents buy their kids corporate/welfare franchise merchandise? Is it part of conditioning our future for the Oligarchy they will be part of as consumers?


Grown men have cried after seeing their team lose.


I can understand if you are a player on the team, an owner, a close relative, or gambling on the game, however, most these people have no connection with the actual game itself- except for the fact that they waste hours of their days sitting on their butts watching like they are part of the excitement. They say "we won, we won! , we actually did it!" Yet they had no effect on the outcome.


Does anyone hear think that the rulers of this world actually give a **** who won the championship?


It is sad to see cities of more than a million people giving so much attention to a few dozen or less players on a sports team.

Instead of using tax payer money to build an arena, they could build 100 more parks, 20 subsidized large gyms with pools and everything. But no, that would benefit more people. Oligarchy is for the few, the corporate sponsored elite!



None of this is probably surprising to most of you, however, this among with other things is the reason of our decline. If we as a country are not succeeding, we must look at what the citizens pay attention to. Which is irrelevant , unimportant things.

Ask a person, 'who's playing in the superbowl', and most will be able to answer. Ask a person 'why did we switch from only gold and silver as legal tender to fiat paper bills' and almost none will be able to answer b.c they have never thought about learning about things that actually effect them and society directly.




ps- I have a spelling error for superbowl. My computer is telling me the 'S' needs to be capitalized. Oops!
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Old 07-03-2010, 07:35 AM
 
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Are people who have a Bears flag on their car or a Lakers sticker on the rear window or a Yankees coat they wear often,etc lost causes?

I'm all for having a good time and understand why people would want to watch athletes for entertainment. However, there is millions of people in this country that take it a few steps up on the importance factor in their lives and in objective reality.


Why do parents buy their kids corporate/welfare franchise merchandise? Is it part of conditioning our future for the Oligarchy they will be part of as consumers?


Grown men have cried after seeing their team lose.


I can understand if you are a player on the team, an owner, a close relative, or gambling on the game, however, most these people have no connection with the actual game itself- except for the fact that they waste hours of their days sitting on their butts watching like they are part of the excitement. They say "we won, we won! , we actually did it!" Yet they had no effect on the outcome.


Does anyone hear think that the rulers of this world actually give a **** who won the championship?


It is sad to see cities of more than a million people giving so much attention to a few dozen or less players on a sports team.

Instead of using tax payer money to build an arena, they could build 100 more parks, 20 subsidized large gyms with pools and everything. But no, that would benefit more people. Oligarchy is for the few, the corporate sponsored elite!



None of this is probably surprising to most of you, however, this among with other things is the reason of our decline. If we as a country are not succeeding, we must look at what the citizens pay attention to. Which is irrelevant , unimportant things.

Ask a person, 'who's playing in the superbowl', and most will be able to answer. Ask a person 'why did we switch from only gold and silver as legal tender to fiat paper bills' and almost none will be able to answer b.c they have never thought about learning about things that actually effect them and society directly.




ps- I have a spelling error for superbowl. My computer is telling me the 'S' needs to be capitalized. Oops!
I too used to be really, really big into sports. Cant say I ever cried, but id get angry and emotional at times. No more.

I think the investment fans put, emotional and financial, is as bad as the teens and women who put much of the same in celebs. Now a days, I watch sports just to watch sports from time to time. I dont go out over paying for this and that because it has some stupid logo on it. I dont spend hours watching listening to sports talk shows. Its all just silly.

Hard to believe grown men will sit and call in to sports talk shows, and its so obvious they have such a strange passion for it, like it matters so much to them. But why?

Are peoples personal lives so empty that they have to get so involved in something so silly? Grown men, over paid to play GAMES?! Then we treat these players as if they are God's gift to the world?! It stuns me that this is where we have progressed to in society. Where the least beneficial to society, pro athletes and actors, are the highest paid and most admired/worshiped. Its really sickening to me.
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Old 07-03-2010, 07:41 AM
 
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I find that odd too. With most team sports the team from any given city only has a few players who actually are from that city. Most players are traded all over the place like slaves centuries ago
Even with national teams there is that tendency. You can see that at the soccer championship right now. Teams from almost all countries have players that were not born there. There is often fast-track naturalization so that Brazilians, Africans etc. can play for another country.

When I like a team it basically means that I like the city or country, not the teams from there as I am not into sports anyway

Basically I think team sports is an abstracted form of war, which explains a lot...
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:42 PM
 
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Also, the new "In" thing now, is that UFC or whatever it's called.

"Like, how can you not enjoy watching two men beat each others heads in, while one has their legs securely wrapped around the others waste line..?"


If UFC is legal , so should dog fighting be.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Yes but dogs don't make the rules. We do. So that goes right out the window. These people are big sports fans.

I see the same crazy things for soap operas.
I see the same crazy things for toys.
I see the same crazy things for shopping.
I see the same crazy things for technology.
I see the same crazy things for everything people have a passion about. So what if a person wants to buy a jersey for their child or themselves supporting the team they root for. How is it hurting you? People go out of their way to get new shoes no matter what. Doesn't bother me one way or the other.

What I find more hilarious is why another grown person cares what another grown person does in his life.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I too used to be really, really big into sports. Cant say I ever cried, but id get angry and emotional at times. No more.

I think the investment fans put, emotional and financial, is as bad as the teens and women who put much of the same in celebs. Now a days, I watch sports just to watch sports from time to time. I dont go out over paying for this and that because it has some stupid logo on it. I dont spend hours watching listening to sports talk shows. Its all just silly.

Hard to believe grown men will sit and call in to sports talk shows, and its so obvious they have such a strange passion for it, like it matters so much to them. But why?

Are peoples personal lives so empty that they have to get so involved in something so silly? Grown men, over paid to play GAMES?! Then we treat these players as if they are God's gift to the world?! It stuns me that this is where we have progressed to in society. Where the least beneficial to society, pro athletes and actors, are the highest paid and most admired/worshiped. Its really sickening to me.
I know there is something crazy or silly that you put alot of investment in, emotional or financial, that most of us will question. Don't try saying that you put a huge amount of investment in your work or kids. Everybody does. I'm talking about extracurricular activities.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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What I find more hilarious is why another grown person cares what another grown person does in his life.
It's called society, silly
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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If UFC is legal , so should dog fighting be.
That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.

UFC fighters are consensually fighting. The dogs are not. They are forced into it. It is animal abuse.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I find that odd too. With most team sports the team from any given city only has a few players who actually are from that city. Most players are traded all over the place like slaves centuries ago
Even with national teams there is that tendency. You can see that at the soccer championship right now. Teams from almost all countries have players that were not born there. There is often fast-track naturalization so that Brazilians, Africans etc. can play for another country.

When I like a team it basically means that I like the city or country, not the teams from there as I am not into sports anyway

Basically I think team sports is an abstracted form of war, which explains a lot...

Once you are capped for a Country you cannot play for another country so there is no trading.

Just because you were born somewhere does not mean that is what you consider your country. Many Americans are born in other countries due to their parents being in the military. If one of those kids grows up to play on the international level would you expect them to choose that country?

Many international soccer players have dual citizenship and can choose which country to play for. But, once they get capped, its that way forever.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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I find it strange that Chris Rock/Tom Cruise/etc. make millions of dollars per movie to pretend to be someone else; and scores and scores of people sop that crap up.
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