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Old 07-24-2011, 03:23 AM
 
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What an awesome ride by cadel in the time trial.
Not only made up the 57 second on andy, but added another minute...to lead by 1 min.

Congratulations to Australia's first tour winner. The country got behind him, massive for cycling in australia ...... amazing ride by Cadel.

Certainly made my late nights worth it... Very happy down here
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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What an awesome ride by cadel in the time trial.
Not only made up the 57 second on andy, but added another minute...to lead by 1 min.

Congratulations to Australia's first tour winner. The country got behind him, massive for cycling in australia ...... amazing ride by Cadel.

Certainly made my late nights worth it... Very happy down here
Well deserved!!
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Cook County
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Newb question - so is the reason he already "won" even though there is one more stage left because it is such a large lead, or this stage is just for show?
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Newb question - so is the reason he already "won" even though there is one more stage left because it is such a large lead, or this stage is just for show?
It is almost a convention or it might as well be that the GC in not in contention. For them it is more of a ceremonial riding while toasting with champagne and all. It is another story for the sprinters and the stage win. YOu will still see a hard sprint at the end. Remember that if you come in with the peloton, you get the same time. There is no rule against it, but the nature of how time is kept determing the GC outcome, you just won't see it, unless of course that last stage is an individual timetrial. Once they get on the Champs the peloton will be moving very fast for eight laps.


Laurent Fignon: Cyclist remembered for losing the Tour de France by eight seconds - Obituaries, News - The Independent
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Wrightwood, California
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Good for Cadel!
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Old 07-24-2011, 05:18 PM
 
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I think having destroyed a very tough Giro by over 6 minutes and a banged up knee had more to do with getting dropped (even though he is still looking at a Top 5) than "questions around him."

If anything is suspicious this year is the fact that Baby Schleck was absolutely shelled in every pre-Tour race vs. decent competition and now is staring at a possible TdF win.

Voekler has really done well.

Here's hoping Evans puts in a good TT!
Just on this ... and a serious question: I can't recall the last time a defender of the tour de france riding in the Giro....That isn't normal preperation, right (to defend tour... ) ?
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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Just on this ... and a serious question: I can't recall the last time a defender of the tour de france riding in the Giro....That isn't normal preperation, right (to defend tour... ) ?
Hmmm...

Off the top of my head, I think Marco Pantani had to be the last Tour champ to ride the Giro back in 1999 (?) when he did the double in 1998 and then was leading the Giro (1998) when he got popped for a high hematocrit level, thus getting kicked out, giving the Giro win to Ivan Gotti (Team Polti).

Then Lancey boy arrived and I think a change in GC riders' programs occurred and it seems like the big GC riders focused on a main goal- Giro or Tour.

Did Carlos Sastre go to the Giro after winning the Tour the year before?
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Saratoga Springs and Copake Lake.
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Newb question - so is the reason he already "won" even though there is one more stage left because it is such a large lead, or this stage is just for show?
Over one minute is huge on a flat short stage, there is a lot of Etiquette in the Tour also, unless you are a couple of seconds behind, nobody is going to attack the maillot Jaune, Contador broke a long standing understanding between riders last year, taking advantage of Shlecks chain breaking, I have seen Tours for 45 Years, many times forefront riders waiting for the leader to get back from a slip, fall, or other malfunction, once all togheter its on with the attacks.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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Hmmm...

Off the top of my head, I think Marco Pantani had to be the last Tour champ to ride the Giro back in 1999 (?) when he did the double in 1998 and then was leading the Giro (1998) when he got popped for a high hematocrit level, thus getting kicked out, giving the Giro win to Ivan Gotti (Team Polti).

Then Lancey boy arrived and I think a change in GC riders' programs occurred and it seems like the big GC riders focused on a main goal- Giro or Tour.

Did Carlos Sastre go to the Giro after winning the Tour the year before?
Il Pirata, was my first favourite cyclist
that's right... he didn't get to defend it

Carlos did ride Giro, finished 3rd, and 16th in Tour...

it just doesn't seem that the double can be done.... Cadel rode the giro last year and was shot by Tour time... didn't ride it this year and rode a much stronger ride....
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