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Old 07-31-2011, 05:55 PM
 
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^^ Definitely. I kept an eye on the Tour and Grand Tours over the past few years, but didn't watch with the same interest, particularly when Vino got busted, then the Spanish thing.. accusations surrounding Lance... Contador ,.. it does leave a bad taste in your mouth

However, TdF should be happy with who won. Cadel Evans is not a cheat. I know the Europeans might find him a bit boring etc at times, but he is a honest, hard working rider.

Cycling often gets the bad rap for being so diligent about doping etc, however you could look at it from the other side of the coin, and commend the sport on exposing the cheaters. It is frustrating and disappointing now, but hopefully the next wave of riders will realise its just not worth it.

The sport has changed, though I still think it can be fun to watch. Alp d'Huez this year was very exciting
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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^^ Definitely. I kept an eye on the Tour and Grand Tours over the past few years, but didn't watch with the same interest, particularly when Vino got busted, then the Spanish thing.. accusations surrounding Lance... Contador ,.. it does leave a bad taste in your mouth

However, TdF should be happy with who won. Cadel Evans is not a cheat. I know the Europeans might find him a bit boring etc at times, but he is a honest, hard working rider.

Cycling often gets the bad rap for being so diligent about doping etc, however you could look at it from the other side of the coin, and commend the sport on exposing the cheaters. It is frustrating and disappointing now, but hopefully the next wave of riders will realise its just not worth it.

The sport has changed, though I still think it can be fun to watch. Alp d'Huez this year was very exciting
Since one of BMC's soigneurs was popped with over 190 viles of EPO, even boring ol' Cadel Evans could be doping. Not saying he is, but let's face it, everyone in cycling could be. Throw in a soigneur for BMC and you wonder, regardless of what the soigneur or Ochowicz says.

I do think the Tour appeared to be cleaner as the riders were not going Ludicrous Speed like back in Lancey Boy's days. But, I think cycling still has a ways to go.

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Old 08-01-2011, 11:56 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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We have a Tour de Texas..... but that's more of a fundraiser. Or something like that.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:02 AM
 
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Since one of BMC's soigneurs was popped with over 190 viles of EPO, even boring ol' Cadel Evans could be doping. Not saying he is, but let's face it, everyone in cycling could be. Throw in a soigneur for BMC and you wonder, regardless of what the soigneur or Ochowicz says.

I do think the Tour appeared to be cleaner as the riders were not going Ludicrous Speed like back in Lancey Boy's days. But, I think cycling still has a ways to go.
Its not impossible, but I would be very, very surprised.

this is the problem, one cheater casts a doubt on the rest. A shame for those who don't do it.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:27 AM
 
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It's a boring spectator sport in person.
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:37 AM
 
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We have a Tour de Texas..... but that's more of a fundraiser. Or something like that.
25 years ago there was a real Tour of Texas, lot of the U.S. Pros and elite amateur racers used it as a early season tune up race. Bob Roll has some pretty good stories about the race including paying his entry fee with a pound of high quality northern California buds. From what I remember it was about a week long and most of it was in the Texas hill country.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:11 PM
 
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I've wondered why, in any country, there's not a womens tour of/de whatever......
Hopefully someone will try it, think it would go down pretty well, especially if you did it in California, the UK or Spain....
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Old 08-03-2011, 11:17 PM
 
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I've wondered why, in any country, there's not a womens tour of/de whatever......
Hopefully someone will try it, think it would go down pretty well, especially if you did it in California, the UK or Spain....
There actually is the Giro d' Italia Femminile (Tour of Italy for women) and there was the Tour de France Feminin, which has since been cancelled. Plus, there are a ton of Euro races as well as domestic races for the ladies. In fact, many of the Spring Classics have a female equivalent often racing over the same route, but shorter in length.

The trouble with women's cycling is that many races compete with men's races and since the men's races are far more difficult and frankly, more exciting to watch, they go unnoticed at times.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:22 AM
 
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It would be hard for any new country to set up a Tour never mind a country the size of the USA. And to get to the same level as the Giro d' Italia etc would be hard. And no tour will ever get to the level of tour de France for interest and prestige.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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99.9% of the time all you see is a bunch of guys riding together. BORING! Like soccer and Formula 1, Let them have those.
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