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Old 08-12-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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Tiger is done unless he decides to get back on the PEDs
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Tiger's decline seems to be that he has fallen off a cliff. Not a gradual decline but completely fell off a cliff! I don't think you come back from that... if it were gradual he could possibly come back to win here and there. But since he fell off the cliff I think he is completely done... No more majors. I think he will retire in < 2 years. I know that sounds crazy but i dont think he can handle being an average golfer for an extended period of time.
But people said the same thing about Andre Agassi, remember? He was on top of the tennis world, then he lost to Pete Sampras in the '95 U.S. Open Final, and then he split with Brooke Shields shortly thereafter. He lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon to Doug Flach in '96 and fell out of the Top 100 for the first time in his career. He played a number of matches where it was clear he wasn't even trying. The other player would hit a terrible drop shot and he wouldn't even run for it. He'd just concede the break of serve and then send the balls down to the other end of the court. It got so bad for Agassi that he had to play challenger's tournaments so he could qualify for ATP Tour events. You actually have to keep your own score and make your own calls during those matches, just like players do in high school.

Then Brad Gilbert got in his @ss. Agassi went back to Gil Reyes, his trainer, and got on a Navy Seal-like training regimen. He won 5 majors after that with four of those majors coming in his 30s. I never much liked Agassi as a player but I definitely respected his work ethic and dedication to the sport towards the end of his career.

If Andre could do it, I think Tiger can do it too.
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Cook County
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Then Brad Gilbert got in his @ss.
Um, ew.

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Old 08-12-2011, 07:51 PM
 
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Seriously though, Agassi to Tiger is way far from apples to apples, BUT I do enjoy thinking about Agassi's comeback. He was my favorite athlete period growing up (and that says a lot seeing I grew up with Michael and the Bulls). His resurgence was a border line godsend for me.
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Old 08-13-2011, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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it's not the younger players but for sure nobody's intimidated by him anymore, he's definitely lost that.


and he was on PED's, no doubt, why go see a canadian doctor in a hotel room if your not on PED's?

a canadian doc caught bringing 'roids and PED's into the country?

a canadian doc associated with A-rod?

we have the best medical facilities and doctors, no need to see a visiting canadian doc in a hotel room, is there?

how can anyone doubt he was doping?
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Cook County
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I don't doubt he was doping, I'm just doubting the impact doping could have on his golf game. Tiger wasn't winning because he was longer off the tee by 50 yards, he won because of his execution on every single golf shot he took.

Now, if the impact you are speaking of is stating that the roids may be causing his body to fail on him now, thats believable to me.
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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You haven't seen the last of Tiger winning another major or several more yet.....guaranteed. He is nowhere near finished yet. I believe Nicklaus won his last major around 40yrs old.

But Jack didn't go through what Tiger has done to himself over the past 2 years.

For the record, Jack was 46 when he won his last major.

I think Tiger is toast. Mentally. And will not recover.
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Seriously though, Agassi to Tiger is way far from apples to apples
How so? Agassi came on strong in the very twilight of his career. You have to remember that 29 for a tennis player is like 39 for a basketball player (50 for a golfer). Tiger is only 35. He could take a couple of years off, reinvigorate his game, and then come back with a vengeance. It's definitely within the realm of possibility.

If he were already in his 40s, I'd say that he's finished. But he's too young and obviously has way too much talent to not be a force. I think his hunger for titles will come back in a couple of years. Just wait.
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