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Old 09-16-2011, 01:43 AM
 
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If a white girl done the same would you call it ghetto behavior, or 'trashy' or 'arrogant'?
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Old 09-16-2011, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Around Chicago
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It's not wrong, Serena displayed ghetto behavior, this however isn't saying she is ghetto. Understand the difference?

Her "reasoning", if one can call it that, was erratic and illogical, verbally intimidating the umpire with insults, and staring her down between points is ghetto as ghetto can get.
Whatever. That's semantics. The only reason that word is trotted out is because she is black. I've been watching tennis since I was a child and Serena's ridiculous tirade is not even close to some of the meltdowns I've seen. Broken racquets, thrown tennis balls, screaming at the top of lungs at umps and line judges, profanity, etc. was not introduced into the sport by Serena Williams. She's not the first, worst, nor the last.

McEnroe defended her actions? Is that "ghetto", too?

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Old 09-16-2011, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Here&There
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If a white girl done the same would you call it ghetto behavior, or 'trashy' or 'arrogant'?
I would still call it ghetto. Ghetto behavior can be exhibited by all different kinds of people from different backgrounds. That term, I use indiscriminately. Of course you making some kind of distinction there is telling.

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It's not wrong, Serena displayed ghetto behavior, this however isn't saying she is ghetto. Understand the difference?

Her "reasoning", if one can call it that, was erratic and illogical, verbally intimidating the umpire with insults, and staring her down between points is ghetto as ghetto can get.
Whatever. That's semantics.
It's more like understanding what people say rather than presume what people mean.

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The only reason that word is trotted out is because she is black.
No, it isn't because she's black, it was her behavior. But you won't believe that because you've got an issue to push, guns a blazin'.

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I've been watching tennis since I was a child and Serena's ridiculous tirade is not even close to some of the meltdowns I've seen. Broken racquets, thrown tennis balls, screaming at the top of lungs at umps and line judges, profanity, etc. was not introduced into the sport by Serena Williams. She's not the first, worst, nor the last.
We're not talking about "them", we're talking about Serena. Of course I see where you want to go with this, making generalizations of so called "truths" from one incident. Faulty argument is faulty argument, be more specific.

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McEnroe defended her actions? Is that "ghetto", too?
I would not call McEnroe defending her behavior ghetto, I would call it stupid though. I know what you're going to reply with, and no, it isn't because he's white. McEnroe has displayed ghetto behavior in the past and he's done it more than Serena, I would not call McEnroe a ghetto person nor would I Serena. There is a distinction.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:54 PM
 
Location: southern born and southern bred
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Serena exhibits bad behavior intentionally then dares someone to call her on it so she can yell "RACISM". Tennis is a gentleman(ladies) sport. She full well knows that. The William's are all about pushing the boundaries on many levels on the courts. Controversy works well for them. I grow weary of it. I don't tune in for those antics.
I will repeat myself----it is not cool nor appreciated nor welcomed for Serena to threaten multiple on- court officials. Three strikes and she should be ousted.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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she seems like a decent down to earth girl,
You clearly do not know what you are talking about and have fallen for the act - the sweet voice which is as fake as it comes. People who've worked at the USO say that family has been a problem for years with their 'attitude.' Her father is a large part of the problem. His crap attitude has rubbed off on everyone in that family.
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Serena exhibits bad behavior intentionally then dares someone to call her on it so she can yell "RACISM". Tennis is a gentleman(ladies) sport. She full well knows that. The William's are all about pushing the boundaries on many levels on the courts. Controversy works well for them. I grow weary of it. I don't tune in for those antics.
I will repeat myself----it is not cool nor appreciated nor welcomed for Serena to threaten multiple on- court officials. Three strikes and she should be ousted.

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Old 09-18-2011, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Around Chicago
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I would still call it ghetto. Ghetto behavior can be exhibited by all different kinds of people from different backgrounds. That term, I use indiscriminately. Of course you making some kind of distinction there is telling.

It's more like understanding what people say rather than presume what people mean.

No, it isn't because she's black, it was her behavior. But you won't believe that because you've got an issue to push, guns a blazin'.

We're not talking about "them", we're talking about Serena. Of course I see where you want to go with this, making generalizations of so called "truths" from one incident. Faulty argument is faulty argument, be more specific.

I would not call McEnroe defending her behavior ghetto, I would call it stupid though. I know what you're going to reply with, and no, it isn't because he's white. McEnroe has displayed ghetto behavior in the past and he's done it more than Serena, I would not call McEnroe a ghetto person nor would I Serena. There is a distinction.
I think the difference here is that I see Serena's actions as though she is just another spoiled tennis player (which she is) whereas others single her out as if she's an anomaly. I talk about "them" because in my eyes "they" (meaning spoiled, volatile tennis players throughout the years) are all the same to me.
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Old 09-18-2011, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Around Chicago
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You clearly do not know what you are talking about and have fallen for the act - the sweet voice which is as fake as it comes. People who've worked at the USO say that family has been a problem for years with their 'attitude.' Her father is a large part of the problem. His crap attitude has rubbed off on everyone in that family.
If you think that the Williams family is a "problem" (the dad is a nut), you should look up the parents of Jelena Dokic, Maria Sharapova, or even Andre Agassi. And my personal favorite, Mary Pierce's dad.
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:00 PM
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The parents of Dokic, Sharapova, Pierce, and Agassi are no longer a problem in tennis now. Richard Williams, however, still trys to rile things up so often with comments.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Around Chicago
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The parents of Dokic, Sharapova, Pierce, and Agassi are no longer a problem in tennis now. Richard Williams, however, still trys to rile things up so often with comments.
Aaaaand, soon enough Richard Williams will no longer be a problem in tennis and some other jackass will take his place.
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:28 PM
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Aaaaand, soon enough Richard Williams will no longer be a problem in tennis and some other jackass will take his place.
Not that soon. Venus and Serena aren't gonna retire anytime soon, so you'll pretty much only hear about Richard for quite a few more times....or a few more years i should say.
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