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Old 09-26-2007, 07:32 PM
 
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I beg to differ.

You MUST be a Dukie!!
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:41 PM
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Interesting that some states are not on the list. This makes sense, because college sports are not very big in some states. After growing up in the Boston area, where college sports are generally not followed with fanatical enthusiasm (and I notice MA is not on the list), I went to college in Ohio, and found that the widespread, rabid following of OSU's football team took some getting used to. It was just kind of different from what I was used to for the general population to be so crazy over a college team.
I was actually going to put in Boston College, but know that I think about it, all of New England doesn't seem to be big on college sports.
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I notice you said that some states are left off because it's so obvious that there's no need to bother listing them. That explains the absence of Nebraska, but I wonder then why OK, TX, MS, and AL weren't left off for the same reason. The same with PA.
I'll admit, Mississippi and Penn may be no brainers... but.... the other three states have MAJOR interstate rivalries. I've already mentioned Oklahoma before the list...
Alabama is a bigtime rival with Auburn. People have probably been kicked out of the family for going to the wrong school there.
As for Texas...... UT, A&M, and Tech! Ask someone in southeast Texas which one out of the three they root for (A&M). Or west Texas (Tech). The Longhorns represent the whole state for their dominance in athletics, but this is one of the biggest football states in the country, with 10 Div. I-A schools, it's a major honor for the Horns to be #1 (on MY list)

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Suggestions for other possibilities in a couple of states: In California, both USC and UCLA have some serious history. If you look at the very recent history of USC's football team, your selection of USC makes sense, but looking at the whole history . . . either a tossup, or I'd be inclined to go with UCLA because of the basketball program's lofty place in the history of college sports. Can you say, John Wooden? Walton? Abdul-Jabbar? And, speaking of basketball, I'd go with KU in Kansas. How many hoops national titles have the Jayhawks won? How many final-four appearances? Not to mention that one of their first coaches (their first coach?) was the guy who INVENTED basketball. Given that neither school has been huge in football in a long, long, long time, if ever, or really great in any other sport that comes to mind right away (though KU was a track power back when--'40's? '50's?), I'd say basketball, er, TIPS the balance in favor of KU.
Cali and Kansas were sort of a toss up. As a matter of fact, there were at least 4 toss ups on this list.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:42 PM
 
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If you think the Louisville Cardinals are the #1 team in Kentucky you must be out of your mind... No offense, just saying. The UK faithful follow their team everywhere, if the team goes to Maui for the invitational the fans go to Maui. In Lexington and many other cities around the area shops close down when UK is on. It's an electric place to be, especially with UK football on the uprise.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:43 PM
 
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National championships: NC 4, Duke 3. Final Four Appearances: NC 16, Duke 14. Aggregate NCAA tournament winning percentage: Duke .752 (first all-time), NC .708 (third). Pretty close. Given the fact that neither has been a power in nearly any other sport in almost more years than anyone can count, you base this mostly on hoops, and the stats show it's very close. Um, of course I did say NEARLY any other sport. All that ugliness surrounding the Duke lacrosse situation might have called some attention to the fact that Duke has a big-time tradition in that sport. Okay, it's not a huge sport nationally--more of an elite east coast kind of thing--but hoops is so close that an advantage for either school in any sport sort of tips the balance a little bit in their favor. Duke wins.
I based my statement not only by stats and numbers as you mentioned above, but also on appeal to average North Carolinians. True or not, generally speaking, in NC, Duke is associated with a lot of previliged, rich, out of state kids who couldn't get into an Ivy League school who don't stick around in NC after they graduate. Also their Basketball program didn't really peak until Coach K got there.

Also, don't forget about NC Soccer especially Women's soccer. A large percentage of the US national team comes from UNC including Mia Hamm who has retired now but was the face of US soccer.

So, UNC wins over Duke, not just by numbers and stats but also by general appeal to average local folks. This is the best rivalry in college sports in my opinion by the way!
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:09 PM
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Records through 2006...

Kentucky:
  • Football: 531-536-43
  • Men's Hoops: 1926-596-1
  • Women's Hoops: 509-384
  • Baseball: 1468-1315-22
  • Soccer (M/W combined): 341-234-57

Louisville:
  • Football: 426-405
  • Men's Hoops: 1,505-806
  • Women's Hoops: 520-382
  • Baseball: 1,316-1,264
  • Soccer (M/W combined): 328-521

Okay, I got this info from wikipedia. I don't know how accurate this is, but what's on there is on here.


Anyway, when I look at this, to me it's a toss up, but hey, I've never been to Kentucky. But when I worked at Subway, I worked with someone from Louisville... so I guess that had something to do with my choice.....
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:31 PM
 
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New York/New Jersey is Rutgers now. Kansas basketball is much bigger than Kansas State football. Everybody in Kentucky will forget about Louisville if Kentucky can have a huge football season. And the way Notre Dame is playing, they won't be the favorites for long.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:19 PM
 
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  • Alabama: 'Bama Crimson Tide
  • Arizona: Arizona State Sun Devils
  • Arkansas: Arkansas Razorbacks
  • "Big Sky": Boise State Broncos
  • California: USC Trojans
  • Colorado: Colorado Buffs
  • D.C. : Georgetown Hoyas
  • Florida: Florida Gators
  • Georgia: Georgia Bulldogs
  • Illinois: Illinois Illini
  • Indiana: Notre Dame Fighting Irish
  • Iowa: Iowa Hawkeyes
  • Kansas: K-State Wildcats
  • Kentucky: Louisville Cardinals
  • Louisiana: LSU Tigers
  • Michigan: Michigan Wolverines
  • Mid-Atlantic: Maryland Terps
  • Mississippi: Ole Miss Rebels
  • Nevada: UNLV Rebs
  • New Mexico: New Mexico Lobos
  • New York/New Jersey: Syracuse Orange
  • North Central States: Minnesota Golden Gophers
  • N,C.: N.C. State Wolfpack
  • Ohio: Ohio State Buckeyes
  • Oklahoma: Oklahoma Sooners
  • Oregon: Oregon Ducks
  • Penn: Penn State Nittany Lions
  • South Carolina: Clemson Tigers
  • Tennessee: Tennessee Vols
  • Texas: Texas Longhorns
  • Utah: Utah Utes
  • Virginia: VT Hokies
  • Washington: Washington Huskies
The Director's Cup is awarded each year to the college athletic program with the most points, based on a scoring system that gives points for championships, runners-up, top 25 finishes, etc. in 20 men's and women's sports. Essentially it honors the most successful college athletic program, so you can see which schools in which states are most successful.

The 2006-2007 Director's Cup Top 50:


InstitutionPts1.Stanford 1429.00 2.UCLA 1257.00 3. North Carolina1161.33 4. Michigan1135.25 5.Southern California1103.50 6.Florida 1064.25 7.Tennessee 1045.75 8. Texas 1037.25 9. California1030.00 10.Arizona State1005.00 11.Duke 988.25 12.Georgia 971.00 13.Virginia945.00 14.Ohio State 927.50 15.Florida State924.25 16.Wisconsin913.25 17. Louisiana State 888.00 18.Texas A&M 881.00 19. Auburn 866.25 20. Minnesota 862.75 21. Penn State848.83 22. Notre Dame 789.50 23. Wake Forest 708.50 24. Arizona 703.33 25. Oklahoma 702.75 26. Brigham Young 698.60 27. Nebraska 683.50 28. Louisville 654.00 29. Washington 641.25 30. Northwestern626.50 31. Arkansas604.08 32. South Carolina602.75 33. Vanderbilt 552.50 34. Michigan State537.00 35. Purdue 532.50 36. Clemson 527.50 37. Colorado 512.50 38. Baylor 510.25 39. Oregon 509.25 40. Maryland 508.50 41. Oklahoma State503.75 42. Illinois 495.00 43. Alabama 494.75 44. North Carolina State487.50 45. Kentucky 476.83 46. Georgia Tech467.50 47. Texas Tech450.50 48. Virginia Tech434.00 49. Mississippi 425.25 50.Indiana 422.00
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:59 PM
 
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The Director's Cup is awarded each year to the college athletic program with the most points, based on a scoring system that gives points for championships, runners-up, top 25 finishes, etc. in 20 men's and women's sports. Essentially it honors the most successful college athletic program, so you can see which schools in which states are most successful.

The 2006-2007 Director's Cup Top 50:


InstitutionPts1.Stanford 1429.00 2.UCLA 1257.00 3. North Carolina1161.33 4. Michigan1135.25 5.Southern California1103.50 6.Florida 1064.25 7.Tennessee 1045.75 8. Texas 1037.25 9. California1030.00 10.Arizona State1005.00 11.Duke 988.25 12.Georgia 971.00 13.Virginia945.00 14.Ohio State 927.50 15.Florida State924.25 16.Wisconsin913.25 17. Louisiana State 888.00 18.Texas A&M 881.00 19. Auburn 866.25 20. Minnesota 862.75 21. Penn State848.83 22. Notre Dame 789.50 23. Wake Forest 708.50 24. Arizona 703.33 25. Oklahoma 702.75 26. Brigham Young 698.60 27. Nebraska 683.50 28. Louisville 654.00 29. Washington 641.25 30. Northwestern626.50 31. Arkansas604.08 32. South Carolina602.75 33. Vanderbilt 552.50 34. Michigan State537.00 35. Purdue 532.50 36. Clemson 527.50 37. Colorado 512.50 38. Baylor 510.25 39. Oregon 509.25 40. Maryland 508.50 41. Oklahoma State503.75 42. Illinois 495.00 43. Alabama 494.75 44. North Carolina State487.50 45. Kentucky 476.83 46. Georgia Tech467.50 47. Texas Tech450.50 48. Virginia Tech434.00 49. Mississippi 425.25 50.Indiana 422.00
So the top team in each state should look like:

Alabama: Auburn Tigers (19) (Alabama 43)
Arizona: Arizona State Sun Devils
Arkansas: Arkansas Razorbacks
"Big Sky": Montana State Bobcats (93) (Boise State 97)
California: Stanford Cardinal (1) (USC 5)
Colorado: Colorado Buffs
D.C. : Georgetown Hoyas
Florida: Florida Gators
Georgia: Georgia Bulldogs
Illinois: Northwestern Wildcats (30) (Illinois 42)
Indiana: Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Iowa: Iowa Hawkeyes
Kansas: Kansas Jayhawks (66) (Kansas State 111)
Kentucky: Louisville Cardinals
Louisiana: LSU Tigers
Michigan: Michigan Wolverines
Mid-Atlantic: Maryland Terps
Mississippi: Ole Miss Rebels
Nevada: UNLV Rebs
New Mexico: New Mexico Lobos
New York/New Jersey: Rutgers Scarlet Knights (54) (Syracuse 110)
North Central States: Minnesota Golden Gophers
N.C.: North Carolina Tar Heels (3) (N.C. State 44)
Ohio: Ohio State Buckeyes
Oklahoma: Oklahoma Sooners
Oregon: Oregon Ducks
Penn: Penn State Nittany Lions
South Carolina: USC Gamecocks (32) (Clemson 36)
Tennessee: Tennessee Vols
Texas: Texas Longhorns
Utah: Brigham Young Cougars (26) (Utah 60)
Virginia: Virginia Cavaliers (13) (Virginia Tech 48)
Washington: Washington Huskies

All of the teams I changed are in bold type, and the former team that was in that spot is in parentheses.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:29 AM
 
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NC State Wolfpack.............wow

Who cares about the battle of Tobacco Road.......

Duke vs. UNC

I almost had a heart failure upon reading this......I dont know that Michael Jordan Dude, JJ Reddick, Rasheed Wallace, Jerry Stackhouse, Grant Hill, Trageon Langdon, Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand, Corey Magette, Luol Deng......as you can see I am more of a Duke gal......

Also as far as Arizona I would go with the Wildcats any day
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Look at your Duke list of players above and tell me, what have they done? Absolutely nothing, I never even heard Reddick's name all of last year. Can you name one NFL player from Duke? UNC may stink at Football but atleast we do have some great players in the NFL, Ron Curry, Julias peppers, Ektaban, Jeff Saturday, David Thornton, D. Bly, Willie Parker, etc... Like it or not, in NC, UNC>Duke.
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