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USA 13 38.24%
Europe 21 61.76%
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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Remember - atmosphere makes a stadium and in that department Europe wins hands down.
So true. I prefer any day a small Scottish stadium with 5000 people above a 300,000 spectator Nascar-behemoth where everyone just eat hot dogs.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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I have been to a good many stadiums in the USA (Philly, Phoenix, Giants, Yankees, Tigers, Diamondbacks, Ford, etc.) and to even more in Europe (Ibrox, Porkhead, Anfield, Goodison, Old Trafford, Man City - old and new -, Wembley, Murrayfield, Hampden, Wankdorf, Lyon, etc. etc.).

In terms of facilities, US stadiums beat European ones by a long way. They are more comfortable for the spectator, they have far better catering and access tends to be easier. European teams seem to take fans for granted and, mostly, the facilities on offer are considerably more rudimentary compared to the USA.

In terms of atmosphere, US stadiums just don't cut it. While college seems to be better than pro sports, US fans seem to lack passion and organization. This leads to the use of pre-programmed 'prompts' by the PA systems to try to get the fans going. I went to a Mexico v USA soccer match at Giants Stadium and the Mexican fans gave the US ones a lesson in how to support their team. There is very little collective singing or chanting and even less spontaneity about US fans.

The other problem for pro sports in the USA , at least in terms of atmosphere, is that ordinary fans are increasingly getting priced out of games. So you get more 'corporate' seats with people that don't really have much of an emotional attachment to their team. In Europe, sport is still very affordable for ordinary people.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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I went to a Mexico v USA soccer match at Giants Stadium and the Mexican fans gave the US ones a lesson in how to support their team. There is very little collective singing or chanting and even less spontaneity about US fans.
its important to compare apples to apples. soccer is a much bigger deal in mexico than the u.s.

i'm not saying that american stadiums are better or worse than european, because I haven't visited a european stadium. however, if you want to compare in terms of atmosphere, you definitely have to compare the right sporting events. The best sports atmopshere in america is at a college football game -- particularly the bigger schools in the SEC, Big 12, or the Big Ten.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cl-f8NABMM
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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PA systems to try to get the fans going. I went to a Mexico v USA soccer match at Giants Stadium and the Mexican fans gave the US ones a lesson in how to support their team. There is very little collective singing or chanting and even less spontaneity about US fans.
I went to the US vs. Jamaica soccer game in KC last weekend and I have never seen so much flag waving, patriotism, and overall tomfoolery at a sporting event. My throat was killing me from yelling chants the whole game. I didn't even know we had them prior to going to that game. The main difference I can see is that this game was at a soccer-specific stadium over around 20k people and not a football behemoth like your experience.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:21 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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In terms of atmosphere, US stadiums just don't cut it. While college seems to be better than pro sports, US fans seem to lack passion and organization. This leads to the use of pre-programmed 'prompts' by the PA systems to try to get the fans going. I went to a Mexico v USA soccer match at Giants Stadium and the Mexican fans gave the US ones a lesson in how to support their team. There is very little collective singing or chanting and even less spontaneity about US fans.
No we sure don't go around singing songs here and you would probably get laughed at doing so...
Its something you do at College games

Jump Around Wisconsin vs. Penn State - YouTube

The best you get in pro sports is for sure an Eagles game.

Eagles Fans throw snowballs at 49ers fans (Funny Or Messed Up? U Decide) - YouTube
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:22 PM
 
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Jaguars fan is being laughed out of his home stadium

Eagles fans bid farewell to a Jags fan - YouTube
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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So true. I prefer any day a small Scottish stadium with 5000 people above a 300,000 spectator Nascar-behemoth where everyone just eat hot dogs.
You are comparing Apples to Oranges. Really Nascar?

What about this in the U.S.:

Penn State:

Penn State Zombie Nation - YouTube


We are...Penn State... Best. One. Ever. - YouTube

Ohio State:

Stand Cheers from Student Section Ohio State University vs Nebraska 10 6 2012 - YouTube

Wisconsin:

WISCONSIN JUMP AROUND in student section at Camp Randall, Madison - YouTube

Random:

Five epic college football stadium scenes - YouTube

Yeah these people look like they are just eating hot dogs....
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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its important to compare apples to apples. soccer is a much bigger deal in mexico than the u.s.

i'm not saying that american stadiums are better or worse than european, because I haven't visited a european stadium. however, if you want to compare in terms of atmosphere, you definitely have to compare the right sporting events. The best sports atmopshere in america is at a college football game -- particularly the bigger schools in the SEC, Big 12, or the Big Ten.



American College Football - YouTube
I have been to pro-football, college football and pro-baseball in the USA. I am not just comparing US soccer to European soccer.

And I have looked at the Youtubes that have been posted. Pretty tame stuff to be honest.

These guys don't need the PA to tell them what to do:


55.000 CRAZY FENERBAHCE FANS JUMPING - YouTube

And this is how you say goodbye to opposing fans - "we can see you sneaking out"


We can see you sneaking out - Marching on together - YouTube
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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The US has a great and passionate fan and sports culture, but it's just so different from Europe. You could say that in America the fans goes to watch the show, in Europe they make the show.


The Art of Pyroshow || Aris vs paok 2-0 - YouTube

And remember - No pyro, no party!
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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Let's add Basketball to the mix:

Duke:


Cameron Crazies! - YouTube

Maryland:

Maryland Students Flash Mob and Harlem Shake - YouTube

Kansas (fast forward to 1:45):

Decibel record broken at Allen Fieldhouse KU vs MU basketball 2/25/2012. New Pre-tip video! - YouTube

Illinois:

paint the hall orange '07 - YouTube
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