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Old 08-11-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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I think all this self expression is rude and unsportmanlike. Keep your feeling to yourself and do your best, and be humble when you win, and gracious when you lose. All this mad dogging (whatever that means) and trash talking just demonstrate poor upbringing. Let the drug labs decide who is cheating and who is not. And the IOC gets to rule who can race and who can't. Just smile and try not to act so high school.
This is especially true when the athletes don't have all their facts, which are usually more complicated than the simple story from the media.


Mad-dogging (whatever that means) is not some positive energy some make it out to be. It is not the participants' job to call out cheaters, nor do they have the authority and expertise. Such behavior is just a representation of lack of manner, nothing more than that.
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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NBC Olympics should offer the premier coverage of the Olympics. Instead I find it confusing and so addled with adds and lag times that it is, at times, an exercise in frustration.

Is getting an intimate interview with athletes such a great idea after all? Phelps previous deep struggles with depression kind of takes the fun out of watching him swim. I want more event coverage and fewer warts. I have also now viewed an unbelievable amount of ads. Unbelievable.

Politics has really shown its ugly face in this Olympics. Our feuds with Russia and Brazil have really hurt the spirit of the Olympics. Bad for the participants that make it all possible. Bad for the viewers. Bad for Rio and Brazil. But then....we would seem to be at war with everything but men in the ladies room.
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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This is especially true when the athletes don't have all their facts, which are usually more complicated than the simple story from the media.


Mad-dogging (whatever that means) is not some positive energy some make it out to be. It is not the participants' job to call out cheaters, nor do they have the authority and expertise. Such behavior is just a representation of lack of manner, nothing more than that.
Its nothing more than slang for a deep, long gaze. That's it.

If you've been following the saga of Russian swimmer Yulia Efimova you'd be aware that she's tested positive twice for banned substances, yet was allowed in a last-minute appeal to compete at Rio. There's no expertise required to form an opinion of her presence in the Games. You either think it's ok for a cheater to compete, or you don't. She began a humorous exchange with US swimmer King by mimicking King's "number one" finger salute. King's response was that cheaters are not number one; King has been very outspoken against doping - even against her fellow US competitors. King's now-famous stare occurred prior to the medal final when the two of them found themselves in lanes right next to each other. It made for a great personal moment - the kind of competitive Olympic moment that make these athletes "real" to regular people.

You spun the "positive energy" part into it; I think most people just found it humorous, and it added some competitive fun to the final. *shrug*
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Amazing hole in 1 for Justin Rose.
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:07 PM
 
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Its nothing more than slang for a deep, long gaze. That's it.

If you've been following the saga of Russian swimmer Yulia Efimova you'd be aware that she's tested positive twice for banned substances, yet was allowed in a last-minute appeal to compete at Rio. There's no expertise required to form an opinion of her presence in the Games. You either think it's ok for a cheater to compete, or you don't. She began a humorous exchange with US swimmer King by mimicking King's "number one" finger salute. King's response was that cheaters are not number one; King has been very outspoken against doping - even against her fellow US competitors. King's now-famous stare occurred prior to the medal final when the two of them found themselves in lanes right next to each other. It made for a great personal moment - the kind of competitive Olympic moment that make these athletes "real" to regular people.

You spun the "positive energy" part into it; I think most people just found it humorous, and it added some competitive fun to the final. *shrug*
King is just a little ill mannered trashy girl. She may be good at swimming, but she is very lacking in poise and manners. She forgot the whole spirit of the Olympics, which is to win humbly and lose graciously. It is not her place to stare down or to judge others. Her job is to swim her best, with the grace and poise that will bring honor to her country. This she did not do. Instead, she feels she has the right to mad dog or whatever to express her displeasure at others. She has absolutely no decorum. The drug labs and the IOC drug arbitration board are far more expert at their job of detecting and dealing with drug cheats than this little girl.

This goes for Horton too, the Australian trash who is even more ill mannered and ignorant than King.
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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I'm certain King will cry herself asleep tonight while clutching her handful of medals because pennyone said hurtful things about her on the Internet. Lulz.
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Old 08-11-2016, 06:39 PM
 
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So ... if a woman gymnast is competing in the team, the all around, and the individual in say ... vault, that means she has to do the same event three times on three different days and use three different scores for those days?

Is that how it works? If so ... weird.
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Old 08-11-2016, 06:41 PM
 
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I would not use the same language as pennyone but I agree with the sentiments expressed.

An athlete who has been allowed to compete irrespective or prior drug use should be treated with respect like any other competitor. I feel the same way about Gatlin who was found to have used drug was suspended from competition and then allowed to compete. The IOC apparently made the decision to allow the athlete to compete. End of story.

If it is so objectionable then the honorable thing to do is to refuse to participate but if one decides to do so then be a good sportsman or sportswoman and show some grace and class.

I recently saw the movie "Race" about Jesse Owens and in the long jump the German who was his main competitor saw Owens foul two times in the qualifying round. He made a point of helping Owens to not foul the third jump by giving pointers on where he should start his jump. Yes, I know the story is considered by some to be a myth though Owens claimed it was true. Now that is true sportsmanship - the German athlete later said that he did it because he knew that Owens was a formidable competitor and he wanted to compete against him in the final rather than see him foul out.
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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While it's true but my comment only suggests a very changing world about young people who Tat themselves ( instant thought gratification) ..I have been watching Olympics for many many decades..TAT's regardless of what they represent, has never ever before been so apparent!!

I'm willing to bet some sort of research will be done to look into some of them..BUT given history..most Tats represent something..NO?

As to I have to point out..Many Tats do indeed indicate "Games" Loads of Olympic participants get Tats ..BUT what some have total arms/backs and legs covered are NOT Olympic connotation....

I was only observing a change of young people not giving regard to future viewpoint..depending on TAT.. Not degrading..just an observation of self exposing whatever their thoughts or beliefs at the moment..COULD cause difficulty down the road...

I've actually seen Judges in some Court Cases called in Makeup Artists to COVERUP Tats ..why?? Because they could influence the Jury's opinion of the Perp?
Remember "The Illustrated Man"? Coming next, animated, pornographic tattoos.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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I would not use the same language as pennyone but I agree with the sentiments expressed.

An athlete who has been allowed to compete irrespective or prior drug use should be treated with respect like any other competitor. I feel the same way about Gatlin who was found to have used drug was suspended from competition and then allowed to compete. The IOC apparently made the decision to allow the athlete to compete. End of story.

If it is so objectionable then the honorable thing to do is to refuse to participate but if one decides to do so then be a good sportsman or sportswoman and show some grace and class.

I recently saw the movie "Race" about Jesse Owens and in the long jump the German who was his main competitor saw Owens foul two times in the qualifying round. He made a point of helping Owens to not foul the third jump by giving pointers on where he should start his jump. Yes, I know the story is considered by some to be a myth though Owens claimed it was true. Now that is true sportsmanship - the German athlete later said that he did it because he knew that Owens was a formidable competitor and he wanted to compete against him in the final rather than see him foul out.
Sportsmanship left the Olympics when pros were allowed in. Your not going to see Speith showing McIlroy how to putt.
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